Dealing with unpunctual outsourcers...

harrymouni said:
this. between the time and hassle it takes to find someone reliable, just learn it yourself.
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Many of us do have multi-tasking ability already.

However, there's a linchpin point that you reach, though, where your own time becomes intrinsically more valuable, and you have to outsource.

I try to keep more than one person at hand as my "go to" guys in a particular segment (writing, graphics, etc.), so if there is a problem with one, I have a backup plan.

The challenge is keeping that list of talent fresh and up-to-date.
 


I have one right now that I paid 100% upfront for links. He promised XXX amount of links and a report in 6 days.

It's been 7 and not one new backlink that I can't account for personally.
 
Yes, my time is valuable. But it's stunning how many times I end up doing the work my self.
I mean, really basic stuff like install a wordpress site. Apparently it takes two weeks to do it, if at all.
I've given up on outsourcing for now.
 
It probably has something to do with paying people $1/hr or thereabouts. If you want someone good, you need to pay more.

Or putting it another way... Good, Reliable, Cheap - chose 2.
 
I've stopped paying in full for anything. If it's someone from here I'll offer 50/50 up front/on completion. Still majority of content writers and graphic designers tend to be quite flaky. I think it usually stems from taking on more work than they can handle. I think we've seen that a few times around here.

But the biggest thing that bugs me is when they're a)late and b) don't even update you to tell you what's going on

Anyhow, I also usually won't work with the same person again. Funny thing is I posted in the BST design section a few days ago I needed an LP done within 24 hours and would pay upon completion and got very little interest.

I remember I made another thread for a content writer without the same requirements and got more pms. What happened was the guy I ended up choosing broke his own deadline twice and it basically took him 5 days to deliver 5 articles (lol). I won't name names you know who you are.

So ya generally I pay 50/50, won't work with the same person again if they're too late or don't update and lastly I've just kind of come to terms with it. I've had people I've worked with for a long time (1 year + ) go flaky on me so I just deal with it I guess. Had one awesome writer for a long time then ordered 100 articles and took over 6 months to deliver, that was fun. Two amazing designers have disappeared, that idiot with the DP tatoos screwed me and a bunch of people back when I used to hire people from there after taking too many orders and the list goes on and on.
 
It probably has something to do with paying people $1/hr or thereabouts. If you want someone good, you need to pay more.

Or putting it another way... Good, Reliable, Cheap - chose 2.
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This is correct.
 
I think it is good, fast, cheap -- choose any 2.

Higher rates don't guarantee reliability, they just tend to correlate because the few reliable freelancers are so busy most of them have gotten smart enough to raise their rates.
 
This isn't directed at the OP, but I find it's normally the people who have timid communication skills complaining about late work whether it's virtual work or physical work. For example, if the project is even a day late and you haven't heard from the person you hired - that's when you try to get in touch with them. Not 2 days, a week or even a month later. If they are ignoring you after 1 day, it's time to move on.

I almost always deliver on time and have for years. Sure, things come up from time to time - but that's life and I always keep customers notified of what's going on if there is a delay. There's been a few projects over the years that have slipped through the cracks due to simply forgetting about it when I'm super swamped. Don't be scared to email/call/IM the people you hire and ask them "Where is my project?".

And always overestimate the amount of time it will take you to finish a project.
 
yuriko said:
maybe try paying them at least minimum wage and see if it makes difference you cheap ass.
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I dont force them to accept my offers in any way they are free contractors that say they will deliver a certain service/product for a prize. Its not my problem if they dont think it enough to be bothered, Why the fuck did they say that they would deliver then.

MyOwnDemon said:
This isn't directed at the OP, but I find it's normally the people who have timid communication skills complaining about late work whether it's virtual work or physical work. For example, if the project is even a day late and you haven't heard from the person you hired - that's when you try to get in touch with them. Not 2 days, a week or even a month later. If they are ignoring you after 1 day, it's time to move on.

I almost always deliver on time and have for years. Sure, things come up from time to time - but that's life and I always keep customers notified of what's going on if there is a delay. There's been a few projects over the years that have slipped through the cracks due to simply forgetting about it when I'm super swamped. Don't be scared to email/call/IM the people you hire and ask them "Where is my project?".

And always overestimate the amount of time it will take you to finish a project.
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That is the key.

Im human and I understand that shit comes up from time to time. The annoying thing is when they dont notify me or wont answer through any form off contact for over 24 hours then make up some lame as excuse..

I had an order for content that was suppose to be deliver Friday, I gt 2/3 of it then and a promise of delivery on saturday. didnt here from him and thought fuck him since i only payed 50% upfront. He deliver the last third now a few min ago and it was done wrong.

Bu I guess as a few have mentioned that's a part off industry when you outsource, and I have had good ones as well. Just unfortunately more outsources that just didnt deliver on their own words.

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My first outsourced gig was to do some ghostwriting. Big mistake. $3 for 500 words? Are you crazy? Well, I was broke enough to try. She refused to pay even that, and I ended up working for something around $0.78 per hour, more or less over that 70 hour week.

Someone above said it, but I'll echo it.

Good, Reliable, Cheap. Pick 2.
 
The nature of the IM is that anyone worth a shit should be making more money than you can pay them.
 
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