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rage9, I started doing Rails again last week. I like it a lot. Half the reason I like it is because I think Ruby is a great, powerful language and the Rails framework makes me 100% faster as a coder compared to PHP frameworks.
The other half is because I know it will keep your rage fires burning bright.
Much love, fight the good fight
The other half is because I know it will keep your rage fires burning bright.
Much love, fight the good fight
You know what? Im so sick of hearing losers talk about how they would lose business if they wrote good proper code. The only thing is that it shows me is you cant code period. Otberwise you wouldnt be chasing the scraps.
I know because I use to be there. I stuck to my guns and made a bit of money.
People can hate. People can act like they know better. But guess what? What I do now requires those skills. I make it fucking rain custom code.
Now you assholes can learn to code - or - you can keep jerking off. Frameworks will not bring you to the promise land or good freelance jobs - period. If you can think critically and you can execute their's no reason you can't make it.
I know what I do is right and valuable, according to the guys I work for. I know you know that also dchuck.
To the rest of you framework assholes you can eat shit because you have the skills of a first grader. You'll probably never amount to anything and you'll wonder why.
The problem is rage is that you are using publically available frameworks coded by fuckwits whose only real skill is bragging about the certs that have from the course they did.
OOP pwns when you know how to use it and personally I rather be spending my time coding new shit rather then copying and pasting old shit into a new file to make something work.
Hence, I've built my own frameworkhttp://www.wiickedfire.com//design-development-programming/31337-ipwn-framework.html which means its built the way I want for the tasks I need (using .Net) and I could easily code that shit into PHP, Java or whatever if I want.
Does it mean I don't know what I am doing, fuck no, I can find vulnerabilities in code just by thinking about how the programmer built it.
Of course, its great to have thousands of different pages all really doing the same thing (for instance, how many times do the scripts on your blog contain the same curl routines?) but this isn't efficent or practical and if you are running this stuff up on multiple servers then the chances for something going wrong increases dramatically.
Add to that, with the same script replicated across multiple pages any changes made to that logic need to be replicated into each and every individual file (for instance running tor in front of curl) so more time is spent doing maintenance rather then improvements.
In the end though, I guess what I am saying is, frameworks aren't fucked and OOP ain't fucked...its just fucked for you.
OOP pwns when you know how to use it and personally I rather be spending my time coding new shit rather then copying and pasting old shit into a new file to make something work.
Hence, I've built my own frameworkhttp://www.wiickedfire.com//design-development-programming/31337-ipwn-framework.html which means its built the way I want for the tasks I need (using .Net) and I could easily code that shit into PHP, Java or whatever if I want.
Does it mean I don't know what I am doing, fuck no, I can find vulnerabilities in code just by thinking about how the programmer built it.
Of course, its great to have thousands of different pages all really doing the same thing (for instance, how many times do the scripts on your blog contain the same curl routines?) but this isn't efficent or practical and if you are running this stuff up on multiple servers then the chances for something going wrong increases dramatically.
Add to that, with the same script replicated across multiple pages any changes made to that logic need to be replicated into each and every individual file (for instance running tor in front of curl) so more time is spent doing maintenance rather then improvements.
In the end though, I guess what I am saying is, frameworks aren't fucked and OOP ain't fucked...its just fucked for you.
It must suck to be so productive, expanding your skill set in an in demand framework / language, while making good money from it. Hopefully you do better soon brah
yea, i'm a bit younger so i grew up with OO coding and best practices. sure, regular old code like you talk about can get the job done a lot faster in some cases, and with less margin for error. i'm not denying that and programming / design here should be filled with questions about this.
but then again, for scalable systems like a lot of us are building for web 2.0, frameworks are the way to go. coding and best practices (following things such as MVC and coding patterns) make it a lot easier to build complex and original systems.
i believe that web applications and frameworks are the future of the internet personally, so i'm glad to have expertise in that area. i'm actually putting in work on a web application framework now so i can't knock it.
be neutral, use what is best for the task.
but then again, for scalable systems like a lot of us are building for web 2.0, frameworks are the way to go. coding and best practices (following things such as MVC and coding patterns) make it a lot easier to build complex and original systems.
i believe that web applications and frameworks are the future of the internet personally, so i'm glad to have expertise in that area. i'm actually putting in work on a web application framework now so i can't knock it.
be neutral, use what is best for the task.
TEH FUK.
I just spent 20 minutes trying to find out why you called me out specifically. I gave up.
You're not even on my radar bro. Sorry, if I've offered a service somewhere that you planned on making money from.
BTW: I share your hate for Soccer.
I just spent 20 minutes trying to find out why you called me out specifically. I gave up.
You're not even on my radar bro. Sorry, if I've offered a service somewhere that you planned on making money from.
BTW: I share your hate for Soccer.
Why? When you started posting I thought you where a fuck wit (I actually though you where a troll), that's just WF #101. Handle it n00b. Until you prove yourself as half intelligent you'll get tossed around as a rag doll (at least by me). It's nothing personal, it's just a lot of retards around here and I have to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Oh and if you think you can out do me, you have another thing coming. I don't gloat and talk shit because I can, I do it because I produce results for my employer and former clients.
Anyways.
Oh if you want to make fun of my grammar, because obviously you have nothing else to add to the conversation, this is literally my "I'm drunk as fuck and need to drive some assholes in to the ground" thread. Sometimes I write from my phone which doesn't help anything. I'm sure as hell not looking at grammar.
Anyways.
However when it comes to programming I don't have to answer to any of you, I'd rather run you in to the ground and point out your flaws. You can take it or you can leave it. Most of you live in a bubble and leave it, which is why you'd be so worried about competing. I didn't have the success I did while doing freelance by facing off at the rates of Indian programmers and not knowing my shit head to toe. I commanded my rates (I rarely bid of jobs) and people paid me very good money because I could deliver the goods in a competent and timely fashion. I can build nearly anything from scratch. I can take complex problems and solve them. I can make it work. Which gave me a lot of leverage. So when someone tells me frameworks are the bees knees I just say, "Well, you have no idea what you're talking about.".
Most people that claim that frameworks speed up their development process (and props to those who create their own that fit their needs, non commercial) I would tell you to eat a cock. Again, I know the work some of you that preach this shit. All I can do is L-O-Fucking-L at it.
I know programmers like you. I've seen your work. I've bailed some of you out. I've made some of you look bad. I'm OK with it. It gives me an epic hard on. I love the challenge.
I'm just saying, don't come with the "framework" shit if you don't have any talent. Plenty of fish in the sea, and that's what most of you probably are. The sharks are far and few between. If you're comfortable with OO and are a good programmer I can eat my words, I get OO more than frameworks (I'm talking commercial frameworks not you're own developed frameworks). But I have to see it to believe it.
Everyone thinks they have talent. Everyone thinks they are top shit. However the reality of it is, that most of you aren't, and never will be. Keep trying though, I'm always up for a great laugh. I don't say that to be harsh or mean, but it's the reality of programming. There's a good reason why most programming studios are filled with low level programmers, if you don't believe me go read up on the studies done on programmers by big corporations.
rails is still going well rage9...I've started incorporating Git into my workflow to keep things nicely organized and changes tracked, and I'm using Pivotal Tracker to keep all my bugs and features in one place.
A good example of why I am happy with Rails is how easy the gems are to use like https://github.com/amatsuda/kaminari
It allowed me to add pagination to a few areas of my app in about 3 minutes. I am impressed.
I've been hearing good things about your work, good on ya.
A good example of why I am happy with Rails is how easy the gems are to use like https://github.com/amatsuda/kaminari
It allowed me to add pagination to a few areas of my app in about 3 minutes. I am impressed.
I've been hearing good things about your work, good on ya.
Where exactly did I mention that I was the end all be all programmer?
Bro, let's end this.
I'll stroke your e-peen while you assume your inferiority over me.
I'm not a programmer, as stated through my various websites and forums sigs, I am a "web designer" and "seo consultant".
Granted, both require some knowledge of basic PHP and XHTML, but for the most part man I'm not locking myself in a dark room for 20 hours to build a framework.
I'm not sure exactly why you choose to mark me down as a "troll", when there are obviously plenty of other members that would be considered trolls, and their blatant dis-regard for forum etiquette.
I truly respect you for whatever you're proud of doing, but please try to understand not everyone gets hard over showing people their faults, or trying to re-invent the wheel.
Can we end this and go on about our lives now? I'm sure your drunken stupors can be used somewhere else in the forum to belittle someone trying to make a name for themselves.
@douglife
You sure as hell haven't been around here long enough to know how this place works. It's ok. Now that I know you're a real person it takes some burden off me. I could go dig up some earlier posts, however I'm way too drunk and lazy for that because I'd just be crushing another cockroach.
You may be real, but you haven't earned anything here yet. When you do, I'll get off your nuts but its just part of the game. You do not automatically get respect.
In conclusion, I will end calling you a troll but I will not give you any credit for anything. Build a good rep and I'll change my mind.
You sure as hell haven't been around here long enough to know how this place works. It's ok. Now that I know you're a real person it takes some burden off me. I could go dig up some earlier posts, however I'm way too drunk and lazy for that because I'd just be crushing another cockroach.
You may be real, but you haven't earned anything here yet. When you do, I'll get off your nuts but its just part of the game. You do not automatically get respect.
In conclusion, I will end calling you a troll but I will not give you any credit for anything. Build a good rep and I'll change my mind.
Git is awesome, some people I work with would disagree, but they just don't understand the power of it yet.
Ruby is great, Rails can eat a cock. Just saying. It's nothing personal, I'm glad you could add pagination but I'd probably take a few extra minutes and do it even better because I could. </being a dick>
Hearing good things about my work, only gives me a bigger head. But then again I already had it, so I guess not much of a change. I know who you been talking to, so I'm not surprised. We a team, and we are tight, ie I hear shit. I love programming and I strive to be the most hard core fucker out there. I don't talk a big game just because I can.
I hope you're at the next affiliate summit I'd love to get with you and pick your nerdy brain.
You must be really incompetent if you find "a few thousand regular users" a serious strain on server resources.
Really dude, you are talking about trivial things as if they were some kind of mad accomplishment, like a typical self-proclaimed genius.
You had to start a whole thread to tell us how superior you are!
Boo-fucking-hoo! You earned an award!
Lol, dude if you only knew. WTF you done lately? Like just coming and dropping your shit and not backing it up? What the fuck you done lately? Besides be retarded?
If you think a few thousand users are a challenge you're wrong. I have been batting clean up on our service getting it to run better, but you'll see that soon enough. I can only work within the confines of which I'm given on such a product. However since you have no idea what the entails (because you're chasing the scraps) I don't see how you can talk shit.
My balls, eat them bitch. I run fucking circles around average programmers.
I get it, you all on my nuts because you suck dick. It's cool I can handle the haters man.
PS. Nice wolf avatar fag.
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