Do you guys even bother with frameworks when coding?
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Zend isn't going to make any more difference than gzip output buffering and properly optimized SQL queries... you are mistaken that developing an application (like you described) around a framework is making any difference whatsoever for performance/security/whatever
if you are writing single page scripts, framework is overkill.
Personally, codeigniter is suitable to my taste. It's very light (it can even run on your shitty shared poor man hosting), flexible (use whatever your comfortable without bending over), doesn't try to impose itself on you like the rapist Rubyonrails is, which btw is probably the most horrible, bloated, non-scalable piece of shit framework to date. After using PHP, using ruby has it's pluses, but most of the time, you will realize php really has spoiled and made things easy.
One downside of Codeigniter is security. seems like there's a 0-day exploit out ever few months. This is really bad since it makes your site very easy to fuck.
Zend is a piece of shit written by some jew. Don't bother with it.
Personally, codeigniter is suitable to my taste. It's very light (it can even run on your shitty shared poor man hosting), flexible (use whatever your comfortable without bending over), doesn't try to impose itself on you like the rapist Rubyonrails is, which btw is probably the most horrible, bloated, non-scalable piece of shit framework to date. After using PHP, using ruby has it's pluses, but most of the time, you will realize php really has spoiled and made things easy.
One downside of Codeigniter is security. seems like there's a 0-day exploit out ever few months. This is really bad since it makes your site very easy to fuck.
Zend is a piece of shit written by some jew. Don't bother with it.
Learning a framework is well worth it and will make your life definitely easier.
Glad you are having success with CI.
oh there's also pricks who say Codeigniter is for RAD. Makes me lol. Unless you design enterprise level web applications with Spring, CI is fucking enough.
The nature of CI is really just awesome. You really are free to do what you want, but you can follow their design patterns and secure and clean code.
Rubyonrails is hog full of shit. DO not fall for this clever marketing ploy by 37signals. I spent 2 years working with it until dropping it and reverting to PHP.
Yeah this is a good approach as well. Framework I would recommend if you need are in invested in the web application for the long haul, and need to sleep easy, and be able to save coding time.
Speaking of Jquery, it's pure win. Look into persistent Javscript solutions out there. It bypasses the need for heavy DB/Server Logic. Which means, infinite horizontal scaling !
There's even some forums and web applications running purely on Javascript + HTML. This makes scaling effortless, since the bottleneck on server side is virtually removed (minimized significantly), and the client browser handles the work !
Sorry if that wasn't clear to you... I was suggesting that in the case of an application where speed is important that you would definitely NOT want to use a framework.
I used to use codeigniter, I've built numerous large scale apps with it and it pretty much rocks. I switched to cakephp though a couple of years back, and though not as flexible out of the box, it ,makes up in other areas, and overall, it wins my vote. I also use jQuery, but who doesn't? Its the bollocks.
I guess I'm a bit of a framework bitch, but as previously mentioned, time is money, and frameworks give you an edge if you're working to tight deadlines.
I guess I'm a bit of a framework bitch, but as previously mentioned, time is money, and frameworks give you an edge if you're working to tight deadlines.