Doesn't amaze you when you see how many people are still blind to AM?

To the people who said that this company might not want users to see affiliate links, I've got a serious question. If they used a redirection/cloaking script so the affiliate url to the link was something like:

htttp://trustedcompany.com/recommends/pieceofsoftware

How would that hurt their brand, if the user can't recognise the affiliate link?
 


A good friend of mine runs PPC campaigns for some big brands, and he HATES affiliates.

His experience is that they don't any value as a channel, they just increase CPA by competing against the direct channels and cannibalising traffic. In every company he's persuaded to can their affiliate scheme and run it all direct, he's managed to decrease overall CPA whilst maintaining volume.

I have to say, that ties up with my own experience - I did some work last year for a heavily-funded Groupon competitor, and they used some of the big networks (affiliate window-type ones, not pure CPA nteworks) to do lead gen on a CPA basis.

They got a SHITLOAD of leads, and spent a fortune, but even though they spent ages trying to scrub out fraud, their conversion on the CPA leads was almost zero, compared to some pretty respectable numbers for PPC.

A lot of people wanting to do affiliate marketing (present company excluded of course) aren't really interested in doing a good job for the company or helping their brand, they want to make money as quickly as possible, and if that includes fraud, so be it.

If you want proof of this, look at how carefully network owners screen their applicants now :)

I'm not relating this to hate on y'all, because I suspect that the average WF member is far better than most, but to relate it from a "big company" perspective.

A lot of them think affiliates = scammy bullshit.

Another thing to add into the mix is that the mission of a CEO isn't to make more money. It's to increase shareholder value. And although some of that comes from increasing the bottom line, it also comes from increasing the value and prestige of the brand.

If they do ANYTHING which backfires and makes the company look bad or embarrasses their shareholders, it doesn't matter how much money they made, they'll be getting a pink slip.

The corporate world is very risk-averse for this reason.

Hence, even though they could make more money, the reputational risk probably isn't worth it. And even if your client doesn't have shareholders, he probably sells to corporates, so he needs to keep to the same rules.
 
Not every company will resort to AM due to several reasons. But for one, they have an image to protect.

Say for instance, companies like Apple, you don't see on their website that there is such thing as "affiliates".

As I have read on the news for the past weeks or month that the total income of Apple is enough to pay off U.S debt. Even a company as big and successful as Apple can be on great heights without having to resort with AM.

You are truly an idiot, Apple only has $10 trillion in the bank and the debt is $14.5 trillion
 
Sometimes there are legal reasons as well.

This and also, if you're a legit company, having an affiliate link when you're recommending another product will compromise your rep.

"oh A recommends B to make money, not because B is good"
 
It does not surprise me at all. Hell, I have half of my family convinced I run Google and control the Internet.
 
facebook is a brand and also the ultimate affiliate site.

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A good friend of mine runs PPC campaigns for some big brands, and he HATES affiliates.

His experience is that they don't any value as a channel, they just increase CPA by competing against the direct channels and cannibalising traffic. In every company he's persuaded to can their affiliate scheme and run it all direct, he's managed to decrease overall CPA whilst maintaining volume.

There's basically no value proposition in the affiliate model, which should be obvious from the way even online-only entities treat affiliates. CA and other states get uppity about losing sales tax, Amazon cuts over 20% of their US affiliates loose. EPN baited and switched affiliates from CPS to a CPC model, then changed their CPC model from market rate to a convoluted prorated % of revenue. Now that Triad represents them, next move will be to cut out affiliates altogether and use the EPN infrastructure for revshare/media buys on Demand Media's properties.

The major conflict - for long-term success as an affiliate marketer, you need your own customer base and no online retailer wants to share their customer base with you.