Don't Hire Tyler Lemieux For Coding Jobs

[kblessinggr]

Communication is the difference between Software Engineering and Computer Science. That's why I chose the former. If anyone needs some basic coding done or someone to ask questions feel free to AIM me.

So this has turned into a 'yay, someone complaining... hire me, hire me, I'm good for it' type of thread. :updown:

 

[trigatch4]

I wanted to voice my opinion and I did. Tyler needed a reality check and I think he got it. But I think the point has been made - the kid has potential he just really needs to get his ass in gear - and there is no need to drag this out.

If any mods want to close and/or delete this thread it's fine by me.

 

[symptic]

Thanks for the good mention trigatch.

 

[audax]

Communication is the difference between Software Engineering and Computer Science. That's why I chose the former. If anyone needs some basic coding done or someone to ask questions feel free to AIM me.

Disagree. The difference between those things is just the lame titles given to them. Communication is just a key part of treating your client with respect; nothing to do with what some fancy piece of paper says on it.

Props to TylerL on his response and his defense of his outsourced coder. Tyler, if you ever go into management, sticking up for you employees is a great trait. There is nothing people hate more than when their "superior" throws them under the bus.

 

[rgordon83]

this is why i hire designers to design and coders to code. Any good web shop realizes they are 2 completely different disciplines and very few people are exceptional at both.

$0.02

 

[Fatbat]

I design, but I can't code. Most of my coder friends can't design. I agree 100% with rgordon83.

If you find someone who can do both with great proficiency then you should kidnap them and chain them to a terminal in your basement. A little bread, water and a bit of weed should keep them going for awhile.

 

[vinny lingo]

I wonder how long it will take for this post to rank for the kid's name.

 

[MakeLemonade]

I haven't worked with Tyler, and not going to take sides, but I sympathize with the OP and his problems with coders in general. They are, for the most part, very difficult to deal with for several reasons.

They tend to chase after new assignments while yours is unfinished, and take on more than they can handle.

They tend to say yes to jobs they don't know how to complete, figuring they could wing it if it pays well. If they don't know what they're doing, they won't necessarily tell you, so you have to figure this out for yourself.

Once a job is complete and there are problems, it's far less glamorous to the coder to go back and fix things if there's no more cash to be made. If they did a crappy job, it's YOUR job to find somebody who can fix it. Money back guarantee? Yeah, right.

Coders are oftentimes inaccessible by design, indifference, online gaming, drugs, late night hours and reluctance to admit they don't know how to do the job.

Deadlines are only theoretical, and sometimes you usually have to beg, bribe, and scream like a banshee to get them to complete the assignment.

Indian and Pakistani coders are not necessarily better or cheaper. They can be harder to work with when they can't understand your language.

Coders don't have a minimum standard to maintain, so working with them is risky and frustrating. I have never worked with a coder or designer who did not frustrate me at least a little. Mostly they frustrate me a lot.

Well said. I hate most outsourced jobs. I've only ever had 2 people who delivered what they promised, and this explains why!