Ex-Google Employee Says “Forget About SEO”

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An ex-Google employee, Andre Weyher, has sent a warning to today’s SEO savvy web marketeers: “forget about SEO.”

During a recent interview, Weyher advised companies to ‘forget about SEO,’ in order to better their place in most SERPs over time. He placed an emphasis, to marketeers of today’s SEO scene, on developing quality content that “speaks to users”. Google’s algorithms are designed to penalize websites attracting search engine crawlers, instead rewarding websites naturally built with good content in mind.

Weyher says that he worked at Google for 2 years in the Search Quality Team, which is headed by Matt Cutts. So you would assume that Weyher knows what he is talking about.

“Try to work on your website as if SEO wasn’t a part of your plan,” Weyher added. He said that most website owners should foster content out of a genuine interest for their craft, instead of attracting high SERP rankings. Weyher also emphasized that marketers should focus on elements of their websites that go beyond their content, to provide end users with an optimized experience.

Search engine optimization (SEO) is the process of improving the visibility of a website within a search engine’s algorithmic search results pages. Gaining a natural increase in page ranking on most SERPs, or search engine results pages, is often a common goal for many SEO marketeers, who take in consideration how SEO keywords work, what users search and user-preferred search engines.

Over-optimization, or over-saturating websites and/or web content using SEO tricks of the trade leads to penalization by search engines, most notably Google. As an attempt to combat these websites, Google’s Penguin algorithm decreases search engine rankings of websites who violate the Webmaster Guidelines of Google’s services.

Weyher also commented on common search engine optimization techniques, such as link building and on-site SEO. Link building, in the context of search engine optimization, focuses on developing a network of links that link back to one’s website in order to drive more traffic to one’s website.

“Everyone knew that Penguin would be pointed at links, but I don’t think many people expected the impact to be as large as it turned out to be. At this stage a webmaster is out of his mind to still rely on techniques that were common practice 8 months ago.” he remarked, later adding that the infamy of a high PR page used to be valuable as a link-back, before the prevalence of Penguin that put an emphasis on page relevance.

Weyher also warned web marketeers to avoid ‘over-doing it’ when it comes to on-site SEO, which is prone to being penalized by Penguin due to over optimization, suggesting not to put more than 2 commercial-based keywords in your titles against Google’s discretion.

While this is some interesting advice, I think you should take it with a grain of salt because a lot of the advice that Weyher shares actually contradicts what Google has been telling us for you. Who do you believe?

Source: Ex-Google Employee Says “Forget About SEO” | ineedhits
 


I'm not trying to sound like I know everything (or anything for that matter), but since 2006 I've always pretty much agreed with this line.

If I can't buy traffic and convert it into leads and sales, the content isn't good enough.

If I can't drop a link to some of my content in any given niche community without feeling like a spamming douche, the content isn't good enough.

If people aren't linking to my stuff and sharing it on its own merit, it's not good enough.

With content, I'm always thinking - would I read this? Would I share it? Would I be proud to say I created it?

I've always believed that traffic is valuable, and that to attract the traffic that you're looking for you actually need to provide valuable content. If you can rank a site, but people don't react to the content, or share it, or buy from it - what's the point?

I've kind of always had a "fuck SEO" mentality. That traffic will go where it's earned. I'm not saying SEO is useless. I just think it's attracted to value. And MFA sites, spun articles, etc etc - Even if they're driving traffic, if there's no value in where it's going there's no point. Not saying there has never been money there, but it was obvious it wouldn't be sustainable.

TLDR: When I realized BlueHatSeo.com was way over my head in 2007 I basically said "fuck SEO" and have kept that same mindset over the years. But more often than not it's served me well. I know I've missed out on a lot of free traffic. But I've also learned not to worry about or rely on Google - and I think over the long run that's been a good thing.
 
I'm not trying to sound like I know everything (or anything for that matter), but since 2006 I've always pretty much agreed with this line.

If I can't buy traffic and convert it into leads and sales, the content isn't good enough.

If I can't drop a link to some of my content in any given niche community without feeling like a spamming douche, the content isn't good enough.

If people aren't linking to my stuff and sharing it on its own merit, it's not good enough.

With content, I'm always thinking - would I read this? Would I share it? Would I be proud to say I created it?

I've always believed that traffic is valuable, and that to attract the traffic that you're looking for you actually need to provide valuable content. If you can rank a site, but people don't react to the content, or share it, or buy from it - what's the point?

I've kind of always had a "fuck SEO" mentality. That traffic will go where it's earned. I'm not saying SEO is useless. I just think it's attracted to value. And MFA sites, spun articles, etc etc - Even if they're driving traffic, if there's no value in where it's going there's no point. Not saying there has never been money there, but it was obvious it wouldn't be sustainable.

TLDR: When I realized BlueHatSeo.com was way over my head in 2007 I basically said "fuck SEO" and have kept that same mindset over the years. But more often than not it's served me well. I know I've missed out on a lot of free traffic. But I've also learned not to worry about or rely on Google - and I think over the long run that's been a good thing.

How are your sites doing ?
 
Last month when I was in Vegas I met a cool chick late night at the hotel bar, asked her what she did and she said (in an Irish accent) "I'm a Googler! I work in the Adwords department".

Suffice to say I talked her head off for like 2 hours.

I was kinda bummed after talking to her though because it was apparent that I know the Adwords platform 10x better than she does. She just restated what we all know, so no juicy secrets were given.
 
Last month when I was in Vegas I met a cool chick late night at the hotel bar, asked her what she did and she said (in an Irish accent) "I'm a Googler! I work in the Adwords department".

Suffice to say I talked her head off for like 2 hours.

I was kinda bummed after talking to her though because it was apparent that I know the Adwords platform 10x better than she does. She just restated what we all know, so no juicy secrets were given.

Should have planted the seed and given life to the first hybrid child. Then we would have one on the inside. . .
 
How are your sites doing ?

Definitely don't have the Salty Droid traffic reach, but also could care less about that traffic. I want traffic that spends money. If I wanted to spend my time listening to my traffic bitch I'd just geo-target my ex's.

Meanwhile at Grindstone's house:

I wasn't saying SEO is dead.

I'm saying I've been fine without worrying about it (and still received Google lovin from time to time).

I realize that's how 90% of this forum makes their money, and I have nothing but respect for that. I play a different strategy. I still come here to see what the SEO guys are up to.

At the end of the day it's ROI. And I'm always curious to see how others do it. I have huge respect for SEO guys. Was just pointing out that it's not the only way to get traffic. After all of these years, I still learn a ton from this place.

I pointed out Eli's blog earlier because it used to blow my mind. There's still posts from '06 that people can learn from. Not hating the game. Just not putting all my eggs in one basket.
 
Nothing says it better than this info graphic:

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I've kind of always had a "fuck SEO" mentality. That traffic will go where it's earned. I'm not saying SEO is useless. I just think it's attracted to value. And MFA sites, spun articles, etc etc - Even if they're driving traffic, if there's no value in where it's going there's no point. Not saying there has never been money there, but it was obvious it wouldn't be sustainable.

But with MFA sites that's the whole point. The content is supposed to be relevant to a search engine, but useless enough to a visitor that they click an ad to find the information they need.

If an MFA site had really good content that answered the questions the visitor had then they'd be much less likely to click through.
 
If you forget about SEO and produce tremendous content don't you in effect increase your SEO?

A video, article, or photograph going viral can produce more backlinks in a day than any of us can produce and usually in all the right places.

There is some good validity to what they are saying. If you produce great content that people share you are going to get a better overall incoming link structure, greater diversity of links, and higher quality. From that standpoint, ignoring SEO is actually doing SEO on steroids.
 
If you forget about SEO and produce tremendous content don't you in effect increase your SEO?

A video, article, or photograph going viral can produce more backlinks in a day than any of us can produce and usually in all the right places.

There is some good validity to what they are saying. If you produce great content that people share you are going to get a better overall incoming link structure, greater diversity of links, and higher quality. From that standpoint, ignoring SEO is actually doing SEO on steroids.

Hello pewep. :love-smiley-083:
 
People are acting like the search quality team is suddenly putting out useful advice. They never have, not once in all the time I can remember. Their 'advice' is always general non-algorithm advice to make it seem like Google is some sort of human and not an algorithm. There is absolutely ZERO practical advice to be learned from Matt Cutts and his friends.