Filing today. Approximately $5 billion. Who's buying?
Facebook to file $5 billion IPO Wednesday: IFR | Reuters
Facebook to file $5 billion IPO Wednesday: IFR | Reuters
Facebook IPO Today
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In my mind they are overvalued and the stock just won't have much room to rise.
I know the lucky early birds will make some bank, but in general I agree with the CNET assesment that the commoners won't see much profit.... Unless...
They never announced the Open Graph ads yet, did they?
What are the chances that the launch planning team working with senior dickhead DOESN'T think there should be some hype event just before launch to jack up the opening day motion?
If OG Ads are anywhere near complete, dickless Z would have to be brainless Z in order to not strategically time the news... And competing directly with Google Adsense is BIG news indeed that could prop up the perceived worth of FB a lot.
So;
If I can get in prelaunch (I do know an MSFA, so we'll see...) then I'll drop $10k.
If I hear that FB plans to do anything with OG Ads too, I'm dropping $20k or even more.
Bloomberg's been dropping compliments and comparing FB to google all day. It's pretty rare.
I know the lucky early birds will make some bank, but in general I agree with the CNET assesment that the commoners won't see much profit.... Unless...
They never announced the Open Graph ads yet, did they?
What are the chances that the launch planning team working with senior dickhead DOESN'T think there should be some hype event just before launch to jack up the opening day motion?
If OG Ads are anywhere near complete, dickless Z would have to be brainless Z in order to not strategically time the news... And competing directly with Google Adsense is BIG news indeed that could prop up the perceived worth of FB a lot.
So;
If I can get in prelaunch (I do know an MSFA, so we'll see...) then I'll drop $10k.
If I hear that FB plans to do anything with OG Ads too, I'm dropping $20k or even more.
Bloomberg's been dropping compliments and comparing FB to google all day. It's pretty rare.
Its going to launch at 45 a share probably be a 100 before regular folks will be able to buy it. Then your going to see it shoot anywhere from 200 to 300 within 6 months to a year. Then in 3 to 5 years out be back to that $45 range.
This is one of the most anticipated stocks in decades and if you think there's no way to make money with it your sadly mistaken. If you know what your doing should be able to make money going up and then coming back down.
so i'm dumb with IPOs and stocks in general ... when will i actually be able to buy a share of facebook on e-trade or wherever.
Honestly; when you can't make much money anymore. Real life sucks, eh?
@dmnEPC: Agreed if and only if they finally get OS Ads going... Without that they simply are overvalued.
yea man, my manager used to tell me back in the day during the original tech bubble you used to get on a pre-ipo almost immediately. You would just sit at e-trade or whatever and keep refreshing. Said he'd make 10k easy as pie, but now they don't do that shit anymore.
I wanted to get into second market for this reason alone, but you have to have a 250K portfolio or something crazy like that.
I was thinking the required portfolio for getting some FB IPO stock would be about $2 Million at Morgan Stanley this time around. We'll see, but I hope I'm wrong.
I remember Google's IPO like it was yesterday. MS & Deutche Bank did it together and they sold it as a Dutch Auction, not just a holdout bonus for their top clients... So even the newbie FAs could sell some google IPO stock and use it as a recruitment tool...
Oh those golden times... I don't expect any such this time around. ;(
I remember Google's IPO like it was yesterday. MS & Deutche Bank did it together and they sold it as a Dutch Auction, not just a holdout bonus for their top clients... So even the newbie FAs could sell some google IPO stock and use it as a recruitment tool...
Oh those golden times... I don't expect any such this time around. ;(
It's been depressing today looking for some news about FB's holdouts & future plans, and of course looking for where to get an 'in' on buying some.
What amazed me was I could scan 10 articles in a row online and none of them even seemed to know that FB has a juicy Advertising database... Bloomberg hasn't even been mentioning this at all to my knowledge, despite it being their core moneymaker!
Finally I came across this short video with Jim Cramer:
When Should You Buy Facebook? - TheStreet
Cramer knows what's up... He doesn't mention an Adsense competitor yet, but he's pretty bullish because of their advanced advertising system, which he says is likely to double the profitability of FB after IPO sometime. (Which wouldn't be too damn shabby considering the $1 Billion they pocketed last year.)
What amazed me was I could scan 10 articles in a row online and none of them even seemed to know that FB has a juicy Advertising database... Bloomberg hasn't even been mentioning this at all to my knowledge, despite it being their core moneymaker!
Finally I came across this short video with Jim Cramer:
When Should You Buy Facebook? - TheStreet
Cramer knows what's up... He doesn't mention an Adsense competitor yet, but he's pretty bullish because of their advanced advertising system, which he says is likely to double the profitability of FB after IPO sometime. (Which wouldn't be too damn shabby considering the $1 Billion they pocketed last year.)
^Not a bad point. I'm hearing nothing but positive hype from all directions right now... Can't say I'm totally immune to it all. 
For those who can't get in at Morgan Stanley; here is a way for you to get in and benefit from the initial Pop:Facebook Funds
For those who can't get in at Morgan Stanley; here is a way for you to get in and benefit from the initial Pop:Facebook Funds
Things have really changed since then. Secondary Markets are pre-IPO shares, not IPO shares. It's true there is less liquidity in these markets than public markets, but the price discovery is much more efficient than with IPO sales.
In an IPO, shares are actually sold privately to underwriters who then allocate them to their clients prior to opening day. The issuing company usually has an interest in the hype behind a first day pop, so they underprice IPO shares with their expectation of opening day. It leaves some money on the table but they think it's worth it. The underwriters love it because they get to reward their favorite clients with free money and build loyalty.
That's not really the same as waiting for the opening day of the public market. At that point, you're not buying shares from the issuing company but from the client of an underwriter who is choosing to sell. Remember, there are two sides to every trade and whoever you're buying from is choosing to sell at that price. Odds are, they're probably at least as smart as you.
and this little nugget is what makes the elite, richer than anyone could imagine. Also a reminder that success breeds more success and it pays to hobnob with people more successful than you.