"Federal judge blocks parts of Arizona immigration law"

You guys on the left are fucking retarded in how loosely and frequently you throw around the term racism. I'm pretty sure at this point if a Republican was running for office and neglected to wear a pair of black pants it would be considered a racial undertone.

The good news for those on the right is that the American public--most notably the Independents who put Obama in office--are seeing through this shit. Obama's marketing campaign to put himself in office has resulted in the largest magnifying glass in history on the lefties/Democrats/liberals and what their fucked up "idealogy" actually stands for. And that's NOT opinion. That's poll after poll after poll of data. Check RealClearPolitics polling averages lefties, then please sit on it and spin.
 


MSTeacher said:
It's not as simple as that.

1. Mexicans in particular are educated to believe that the Southwest is their land, it was stolen from them, and they deserve it back. Some believe it, some don't. Whatever your opinion on it may be, many of the younger generations of Mexican immigrants to America have at least an implicit loathing toward America as a country and some are actively on a mission to 'reclaim what's theirs.' Read up on 'la reconquista' and if you know Spanish, get into some of the Spanish forums on the subject and see what's being said. But that's not really the point. The point is that the money and power behind this indoctrination is for the most part the same money and power - Wall Street and the Fortune 500 - pushing to keep the borders open, mostly for reasons of industry and racial division.

American presidents keeping our borders open, Mexican presidents crying racism about closing the border, these people are sock puppets for the billionaires that got them into office. Big business doesn't like national boundaries and does pretty much whatever it can to eliminate these kinds of limitations.

2. Mexico is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Top ten on the billionaire countries list, police state extortion, huge divide between rich and poor, etc. I'd probably want to leave too if I lived there, though the better solution might be to stay and try to fix your own country rather than assimilate into another.

Any good historian will tell you that there is a direct link between massive influxes of foreign populations and the decline of empires/dynasties/whatever you call them. Not minor influxes but huge numbers in a short period of time. There are somewhere between 10 and 30 million illegal immigrants in America at the moment, most of which have come in the last quarter century. That's getting up on ten percent, and that is a lot.

I think the US admits half a million and a million legal immigrants every year. That's a lot by itself and for me that's enough. If people want to immigrate, I think they should get in line, pass the test, and come aboard. It's true our bureaucracy is stupid slow but it could be worse. The wait into Canada is something like three years now. We're faster than many other countries.
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I've heard of the reconquista shit and I find it interesting. On one hand, these guys haven't done anything overtly political yet, so there's no way we can justify a legitimate "war on reconquista".

As for immigration waiting list, it runs between six to twenty years for the US. Not three years.
 
andyt said:
As a democrat, I was only ok with mislabeling all of the republican party/tea partiers racist homophobes (or whatever it takes) in order to get the healthcare bill passed.
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Wow, that's messed up. Even by wickedfire standards.
 
Don't feel like starting a new thread...

But is anyone watching Obama on the View?

...He'll make the sheep turn back to him.

No questions about it. Very frustrating.

I love how he's saying the right wing is always campaigning... what's he doing on the view?
 
popeye said:
The left tries to pull at the heart strings of the useful idiots by bringing children into the discussion.
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I agree, the left ALWAYS fucking does this and it pisses me off. Same thing with health care, "well if it was your mom and she was denied insurance..." blah blah blah. While there are some unfortunate cases in both situations, we need to focus on what benefits the majority, not these special cases. Laws are put into effect to benefit the majority, not the special cases the dems always find to put on their commercials. But hey, this is a community of marketing, most of you guys know they do it BECAUSE it works. When you hook into someone's emotions like that, it is much harder to think logically. And don't tell me the left doesn't do this time and time again (think health care).
 
FTC-Hater said:
I love how he's saying the right wing is always campaigning... what's he doing on the view?
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Good question. Any liberals here want to answer that? Hopefully you guys are smart enough to at least recognize what he's doing which is constantly feeding you bullshit. But oh wait, he can't fix anything cause bush fuxed it all up hurrr duurrrr
 
Why do the people on the left always want to be no different from the rest of the world.

"X number of other countries does this so we should too." I.E. the Universal Healthcare argument.

Do you think the Italians want to be anything but Italian?
Do you think the French want to be anything but French?
Do you think the Chinese want to be anything but Chinese?

Why the should we want to fit in with the 'cool kids' of the globe.

Fuck'em we're the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and we should do what is best for the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
 
What a lot of people are missing is its harder for people to get citizenship here from other countries, with all the shit going on here with millions of illegals. I know Libs, I am a racist!!
 
Impressed with the comments of the racist on these thread. Oh yeah sorry, they are not racist, it's just the law. Oh and yeah I forgot it's a free speech country so they can said whatever racist comment they want...so in that case FUCK YOU ALL from a Puerto Rican US citizen.
 
klaxx said:
Impressed with the comments of the racist on these thread. Oh yeah sorry, they are not racist, it's just the law. Oh and yeah I forgot it's a free speech country so they can said whatever racist comment they want...so in that case FUCK YOU ALL from a Puerto Rican US citizen.
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Hav3n said:
the Universal Healthcare argument.

Fuck'em we're the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and we should do what is best for the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
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One thing that's best for the United States of America is increasing the average lifespan of all of it's citizens. One way of doing that is guaranteeing people who had pre-existing conditions can get insurance and treatment, among other things.
 
pistolpete said:
What a lot of people are missing is its harder for people to get citizenship here from other countries, with all the shit going on here with millions of illegals. I know Libs, I am a racist!!
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Funny how in Japan, to become a citizen you either have to marry a citizen, or have at least a bachelors degree, and up to 3 letters from 3 companies in Japan saying they would hire you if you moved there. Yet I don't see anyone calling Japan racist for their immigration policy. :P (Though most people, like say from the US, go over there on a student/culture visa from some language company to teach english cheap, then all they gota do is leave the country for 1 day every 6 months and come back in with a new Visa)
 
andyt said:
One thing that's best for the United States of America is increasing the average lifespan of all of it's citizens. One way of doing that is guaranteeing people who had pre-existing conditions can get insurance and treatment, among other things.
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I disagree, we need less old fucks on the road who can't drive.
 
kblessinggr said:
Funny how in Japan, to become a citizen you either have to marry a citizen, or have at least a bachelors degree, and up to 3 letters from 3 companies in Japan saying they would hire you if you moved there. Yet I don't see anyone calling Japan racist for their immigration policy. :P (Though most people, like say from the US, go over there on a student/culture visa from some language company to teach english cheap, then all they gota do is leave the country for 1 day every 6 months and come back in with a new Visa)
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Didn't you know? Only white people can be racist.
 
A racist cop will be a racist cop, laws or no laws. Maybe it gives them an excuse to harass Mexicans, but that's not a problem with the law - it's a problem with the cops enforcing the law.

Leftists really leave a bad taste in my mouth over this subject, at some point you have to take control over what's happening and do something to fix it. The entire immigration process can't change overnight, but in the meantime you can't just say "ah a few will slip by but don't worry that'll eventually be fixed" while the US becomes shittier and shittier.

Is it really that hard to keep your proof of citizenship in your glove box at all times? ESPECIALLY if you're a Mexican in Arizona. See a racist cop ready to harass you? Boom I'm a US citizen and here's proof, take it up your ass. Not that difficult and probably satisfying to a legal immigrant.

Racism makes me sick, but in a completely different way than it does the libs.
 
andyt said:
One thing that's best for the United States of America is increasing the average lifespan of all of it's citizens. One way of doing that is guaranteeing people who had pre-existing conditions can get insurance and treatment, among other things.
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Fine. I can at least deal with that argument because it is an argument.

And i could then argue with you about:
Is it really in our best interest to federalize healthcare or further regulate the insurance companies?
Can we afford universal healthcare? Where is the money coming from?
Should we only subsidize private insurance?
Is a pubic option a good idea?

All of those questions would then need to be decided because you feel that it is our best interest to do those things. I might disagree with you or agree with you.




"We should have universal healthcare because all the other countries have it" is not an argument it is an excuse.


Back on topic....

A lot of the rest of the world is far stricter on immigration and having identification on your person than we are in the US.

By that retarded logic shouldn't we have this sort of strict immigration?


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Im not even gonna read this as I'm sure most of the comments are biased and pointless. In case all of you supposed "affiliate marketers" forgot, this whole law is all about money:

-Federal government is supposed to compensate AZ for the stress on their infrastructure/free health care and hospital visits/free schooling and other shit they pay for with all the illegals gobbling up the social services.

-Federal government does not compensate nearly enough to cover even a fraction of the burden these illegals cause the state.

-State taxpayers are the ones who foot the bill. I'm sorry but an illegal getting paid under the table does not contribute a single dime to the state coffers (In case some of you failed high school economics)

So Arizona does the only thing they can which is pass their own law and take matters into their own hands. It has nothing to do with racism, not a single damn thing. The states out here on the west coast are already hurting thanks to the housing downturn and subsequent recession due to rampant speculation at all levels of our financial world and that's all AZ needs is to go completely bankrupt and down the shitter even more due to a bunch of freeloaders.

Go watch the south park episode that started the famous quote "They took our jobs!" "Der derker derrrr!" and realize this has absolutely zero to do with racial bias or latinos and moreso with freeloading social services at the expense of the state.
 
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