First Trans Fats, now Salts

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New York seeks national reduction of salt in food - CNN.com

First it was trans fats. Then it was high-calorie fast food. Now, the New York City Health Department is tackling another diet enemy: salt.

The department unveiled an initiative Monday urging restaurants and food companies across the country to voluntarily reduce their products' salt levels, city officials said.

"Salt is a huge problem in our diets," said Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the Cardiovascular Disease Prevention and Control Program at the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene. "The majority of us consume too much salt, which increases blood pressure and puts us at risk for heart attack and stroke."
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And too much beer can be bad for my liver, like to see you try to ban that from restaurants and bars. (because of the whole trans-fat scare, most name-brand chocolates tastes like shit... don't believe me? try asking any pregnant lady.)

I like how they say "voluntarily". While they're at it why don't they just make a huge ass list of shit thats not good for us and have em 'voluntarily' remove those as well.

I'll tell ya one thing though, the moment that city drastically reduces the salt levels in servings, we might actually see a iodine deficiency for the first time in a long while, lol.

Honestly they should be taking a more active part advising consumers, not restaurants.
 


20/20 did a piece a while back that investigated the amount of time and money spent by the government to WARN us about the evils of salt.

The ratio was something like 10:1 of independent doctors and universities that found ABSOLUTELY NO correlation between salt & heart disease and high blood pressure.

The gov't. guys were stammering and stuttering when questioned about the lopsidedness of the statistics.

Just another reason for the Gov't to be poking their nose where it doesn't belong.

Hell, if I quit salting my food I get cramps in my feet and hands within days of the reduction.

As a kid I had to keep rock salt with me when out in the heat. In the Marine Corps I had heat exhaustion several times and the Corpsman made me keep salt tablets or rock salt with me at all times.

Screw them that want to control every damn thing.
 
Besides increasing blood pressure, are there any other problems with large amounts of salt?

I have unusually low blood pressure (90/50 I think), and my doctor said that a high salt diet would not be unhealthy for me.


Edit: Fuck nanny government.
 
Mother fuckers should mind their own business. If a fat guy dies from eating too much salt then that's his prerogative.
 
cardine said:
Besides increasing blood pressure, are there any other problems with large amounts of salt?

I have unusually low blood pressure (90/50 I think), and my doctor said that a high salt diet would not be unhealthy for me.


Edit: Fuck nanny government.
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The only legitimate thing that "I" have found in my own personal research about salt is some people retain too much water with a high salt intake.

This causes inflammation that can damage capillaries. (Hence the assumption of possible risk of high blood pressure & heart disease. But NO CONCLUSIVE data has been produced. Unless I've missed something in the last few years. I have not been keeping up on it lately.)

I'm sure that since SALT has become a Hot Button over the years that we will quite a few interesting discussions on both sides of this fence if the thread goes that way and not staying with the OP about ridiculous Gov't intervention in general.
 
Salt has a definite effect in some conditions like Meneire's disease. My wife has to limit her salt intake.

Right now I know about 20 people are doing niche research on "Meneire's Disease" after reading this.
 
Ignoring the salt stuff, the trans-fats should never have been making their way into common food in the first place. There are plenty of cooking oils about that are only marginally more expensive than don't make things taste like arse.
Canola comes to mind, and it's the most common cooking oil here... Kinda like how the US uses HFCS instead of cane sugar because of all the stupid corn subsidies.

But yeah, salt levels... why not just remove the salt from the tables instead? Or better yet, tell people on the menu to salt things to taste?
 
There is a ridiculous amount of salt and sodium in processed foods. You get something like 2 times the amount you actually need per day from that stuff. This stuff would be doing you a favor because if they took out the sodium you can always use the salt shaker in front of you (the average amount from the shaker you would use is only about 100th of your daily need anyway) so between the restaurants cutting down and you using good judgment...we might actually get this stuff balanced out.
 
turbolapp said:
There is a ridiculous amount of salt and sodium in processed foods. You get something like 2 times the amount you actually need per day from that stuff. This stuff would be doing you a favor because if they took out the sodium you can always use the salt shaker in front of you (the average amount from the shaker you would use is only about 100th of your daily need anyway) so between the restaurants cutting down and you using good judgment...we might actually get this stuff balanced out.
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But the problem is the government IS NOT SUPPOSED to tell businesses how much salt to put on food....

If people don't like the salt in certain processed foods, they shouldn't buy them plain and fucking simple....

Not go bitch to the government to ban salt. That reasoning is so flawed....

"People who would sacrifice temporary safety for essential liberty deserve neither" - The $100 bill.
 
dont be fucking retarded. the government is supposed to make sure we're not shoving piles of poison into our body for the same reason suicide is illegal. GOOD JOB ny
 
Yea yall are all right... In the name of protecting our countrymen and fellow consumers, we should ban any affiliate offer that could potentially cause financial harm to the individual that fails to read the terms and conditions they agree too.

This way people don't accidentally spend money they don't have unknowingly....




People shouldn't bitch at the government when they agree to a contract they didn't read, and get royally fucked. The responsibility lies with the person that agreed to the rebill. It's not the governments fault because the didn't ban rebills, it's the consumer's fault for being an idiot. Same thing when people bitch when they eat junk food and get fat. It's not the government's job to be your mommy.
 
turbolapp said:
There is a ridiculous amount of salt and sodium in processed foods. You get something like 2 times the amount you actually need per day from that stuff. This stuff would be doing you a favor because if they took out the sodium you can always use the salt shaker in front of you (the average amount from the shaker you would use is only about 100th of your daily need anyway) so between the restaurants cutting down and you using good judgment...we might actually get this stuff balanced out.
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High blood pressure runs in my family and the ONLY thing that has helped is reducing the amount of packaged/processed/frozen foods. Doctors say that you will be fine if you eat 400mg of Sodium a DAY. The HEALTHIEST 6-inch subway sub has 1200mg in it. Puts that in perspective.
 
You're fucking insane if you dont think the government has a BIG responsibility to protect us from harmful elements.

The FTC has every right to ban rebills because the deceptive advertising used.

The government has every right to restrict chemical usage in the food sector because of the general ignorance of the public.

With that being said, I made $XXX today pushing trials. Fuck the proletariat.
 
Tight said:
The FTC has every right to ban rebills because the deceptive advertising used.

The government has every right to restrict chemical usage in the food sector because of the general ignorance of the public.
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The problem is not with banning harmful substances that have been shown with scientific research to be harmful to the public. The problem is banning substances that have no objective scientific backing for why we should ban them.

The problem with running the ban hammer with everything is where does it stop?

Once salt is banned in restaurants what next? Will burgers be banned or fast food because it puts people at a high risk of MANY diseases? And how far will this trend continue to protect people from themselves?

What if in the future the bans are so bad that all we have is government provided trays of food, and do not have the choice to eat beef or chicken because it is so heavily regulated?


What I am against is letting small decisions like banning salt lead us in the direction where we are all slaves and have no say over our lives.

This is what I am against.

If I want to eat a gallon of salt I should be able too, and I should also be educated on the consequences of such an action, just like consumers should be educated not to sign up or agree to any contract without reading it first.... It shouldn't be the governments job to ban shit because the sheeple are too lazy to bahhh....

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Trigger, what exactly are you geeking over. New York is reducing the levels of salts in foods so that you dont DIE of high blood pressure. Read any college level biology book and it will tell you 1.2 grams of salt per meal is a path to disaster.

And NO you're not allowed to eat as much salt as you want because technically you're the property of the state. You'd be grievously harming yourself - which is a crime by the way. Here's a fun fact: everyone has an inherent value to the government. Killing yourself = losing money. BIG nono.

I hope they ban fast food or at least get rid of preservatives as a whole because of the link to carcinogens that's been proven time and time again.
 
So you don't think people should have a right to eat whatever they want to? Even if it isn't healthy?

You think the government needs to be my mommy and watch everything I do?

Why don't we outlaw cars then too..... People get in wrecks and die everyday.

No more vehicles = SAVING LIVES!!!!

And fyi I am NOT the government's property. You are a FUCKIN IDIOT if you think that.

And why is your avatar the Chinese flag? Are you from china?
 
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