Fix yo diets, homies.

Ar Scion

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM]YouTube - Sugar: The Bitter Truth[/ame]
 


your loss, YDKM (nbd unless you're into nutrition)

I came across and watched this weeks ago while doing some research and have literally completely changed my diet... Eat pretty much no refined, processed sugars now, and have otherwise drastically reduced fructose and total simple carbohydrate intake.

thanks for the vid Ar
 
That's fucking crazy hah i never knew that until now, and i drink at least one soda a day....fml
 
Here's the short version:

fructose makes your body think you're not full, it also makes your body think you're not hungry, so, you eat just to eat but don't realize you are full until your stomach literally cannot handle anymore food. Thus and increase in caloric consumption.
 
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Here's the short version:

fructose makes your body think you're not full, it also makes your body think you're not hungry, so, you eat just to eat but don't realize you are full until your stomach literally cannot handle anymore food. Thus and increase in caloric consumption.

I didn't watch the video, but I have a question if this is the case.

If I have a diet with lots of processed sugar/fructose, but I have self discipline and limit myself to 2000-2200 calories each day, and I get all of the nutrition (vitamins/minerals/protein/antioxidants) I need, then is fructose and processed sugar still bad for you?
 
I didn't watch the video, but I have a question if this is the case.

If I have a diet with lots of processed sugar/fructose, but I have self discipline and limit myself to 2000-2200 calories each day, and I get all of the nutrition (vitamins/minerals/protein/antioxidants) I need, then is fructose and processed sugar still bad for you?

I only watched small bits of the video here and there, but I happened to catch a spot where he mentions that the intake of fructose/sucrose does have an effect akin to drinking, such as cirrhosis of the liver.
 
I didn't watch the video, but I have a question if this is the case.

If I have a diet with lots of processed sugar/fructose, but I have self discipline and limit myself to 2000-2200 calories each day, and I get all of the nutrition (vitamins/minerals/protein/antioxidants) I need, then is fructose and processed sugar still bad for you?

Basically any amount of sugar is bad for you minus natural occurring sugars found in honey, fruits, ect. A proper diet is about maintaing balance in your body, not just calories, calories are a unit of measurement and energy, 2k calories from veggies is far different than from snickers. Sugar causes an imbalance in insulin (among other things) which is extremely unhealthy. I could go on about this forever so I will just say do some reading if you want to become healthy and there is really no place for refined sugar in the human body.
 
your loss, YDKM (nbd unless you're into nutrition)

I came across and watched this weeks ago while doing some research and have literally completely changed my diet... Eat pretty much no refined, processed sugars now, and have otherwise drastically reduced fructose and total simple carbohydrate intake.

thanks for the vid Ar

I'm a competitive bodybuilder, thanks. (If you choose not to believe, then I don't care.)

I watched like 5 minutes of it, and I can pretty much guess what the rest of it is going to be about. I'm not saying it's a "bad" video or anything--just way too long IMO. They need to make a cliffs version or something.
 
Short version:

-Glucose = good, natural, healthy sugar.
-Fructose (Ie High Fructose Corn Syrup) = less good sugar. 30% converted into fat. Contributes to a ton of health problems. Has effects on the body similar to alcohol. The difference is, Fructose is not processed in the brain, so its not "felt" like alcohol.
-A calorie is not just a calorie. A calorie of fructose has a drastically different effect on the body compared to a calorie of glucose. Good calories matter.

-The related health issues can all be very generally categorized under "metabolic syndrome"(wiki it), and America as well as the rest of the world is suffering from this epidemic.

-The long and short of Fructose's effects on appetite is that our bodies have a naturally functioning system that handles fullness. Enzymes and hormones work to tell the body "Okay you're full, stop being hungry." Fructose interferes with that, leading to people gorging like motherfuckers, feeling hungry when their bodies have sufficient nutrition. Insta-obesity.

-Fructose fucks up the liver over time simply by processing it. Processing too much and you're fucked.

-The normal, healthy range of calorie intake is something like 15g fructose, 30g total sugars per day. We're way up in the hundreds right now.

-Fructose is such a mainstay because of processed foods. Almost all processed foods have HFCS injected in it.

There's a lot more key points, but I cant think of em right now.
 
A calorie is a calorie is a calorie. The macro-nutrient breakdown between a chocolate bar a cucumber is obviously different, the caloric breakdown is also obviously different, but 1 calorie from a Snickers = 1 calorie from a carrot when you ignore the macro side.

Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds - CNN.com

while you are right to a degree please do not promote bullshit like that. in no way is what that professor did healthy and to 'ignore the macro side' is absolutely fucking retarded.
 
Exercise, eat whatever you want. Simple as that. The only people that have issues because of sugars are fat fucks who sit on their couches all day. Watch your intake, and you will be fine.

PS - Almost all fruit carbohydrates are fructose dominant.
 
Almost all fruit carbohydrates are fructose dominant.

This is true, and part of what makes these findings so counter-intuitive. Healthy = Natural = Fruits and veggies, right? I guess not. Which is obvious when you consider how many poisons are natural.

It helps to consider that humans never used to have year-round access to fresh fruits and vegetables via a supermarket. Oh, and the fact that humans never really had to worry about diet because everyone died at 30 anyway...

If I have a diet with lots of processed sugar/fructose, but I have self discipline and limit myself to 2000-2200 calories each day, and I get all of the nutrition (vitamins/minerals/protein/antioxidants) I need, then is fructose and processed sugar still bad for you?

Yes, because it is being ingested in place of something more nutritious, if only because there is pretty much nothing that is less nutritious. Also, the whole selling point/"gotcha" of the video is that fructose is actually BAD for you (metabolic syndrome) in, apparently, any amount. Moderation is better than average, but a stricter diet is ideal.

I'm not a scientist or an expert, so feel free to correct anything I've said here.