Gaming just lost its innocence!

I can see the tabloid headlines now.


"10 YEAR OLD'S $50,000 CREDIT CARD DEBT IN EVIL COMPUTER GAME GAMBLING SHOCKER"

Then DAs all over the country will be scrambling to twist the gambling laws to "protect the children". I'm sure it will be great unless you happen to be the poor schmuck they make an example of.
 


Pretty sure gaming lost that a long time ago

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amateursurgeon said:
I can see the tabloid headlines now.


"10 YEAR OLD'S $50,000 CREDIT CARD DEBT IN EVIL COMPUTER GAME GAMBLING SHOCKER"

Then DAs all over the country will be scrambling to twist the gambling laws to "protect the children". I'm sure it will be great unless you happen to be the poor schmuck they make an example of.
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Yeah, it's already considered illegal in Arizona, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Maryland, Montana, Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee and Vermont.

If I was a betting man, I'd bet that it will soon become against the law in many other states or at the federal level, especially if the media gives it more coverage.
 
Yeah EA is kind of advocating it as the guy above said. I loaded up Fight Night Champion and saw that there are tournaments for $2k being played. The problem with these games is that they aren't very balanced and aren't proven "competition" games.

I would love this for FPS too, but they need a way to prevent cheating. Even if it's console. I've seen people hacking on COD4 on PS3. Plus when monies is involved, you can bet your dick people will be trying harder to code wallhacks/aimbots and shit for it. If you can run homebrew software on XBOX or PS3 which you most certainly can, then it's possible to install hacks too. It's also harder to detect because there aren't any anti-cheating measures like VAC on console games.

I think this sort of thing will work best with games which are BUILT for competition. Like Starcraft 2 and QuakeLive. As they are games which are proven to take actual skill to be in the upper echelon. Unlike in a game like say NBA2K12 where you can choose the fucking Miami Heat and just spam expolits in and out.

But I am a supporter for online gaming gambling. Why the fuck not.
 
Idk why some people getting mad, you have the choice to also play for fun/free. It's just an option to play for money.

If they had this for madden I would be a millionaire
 
ItsYoBuddy said:
Idk why some people getting mad, you have the choice to also play for fun/free. It's just an option to play for money.

If they had this for madden I would be a millionaire
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when ity starts playing for money is a minority, but as the game picks up more and more you will find that some people will rationalise, "Im playing this game for free anyway, why not make money while Im at it, my mum is always complaining that i need to get off the console and get a job".

Before you know it you're trying to make dough playing game.

Slowly playing without real money sort of becomes a bit of a joke, like freeroll is to poker. Kinda like what wine coolers are to drinkers and training rails are to 10 pin bowling.

Why do poker tournies have freeroll?? (It's to wet your appetitie to get more people playing for money)

Games makers will just follow the money, they realise they can make more money from these "money players" and the centre piece of the game will move towards the money games.
 
ItsYoBuddy said:
Idk why some people getting mad, you have the choice to also play for fun/free. It's just an option to play for money.

If they had this for madden I would be a millionaire
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They DO have it for Madden. Go ahead and make those millions. Come show us a screenshot of your earnings when you're balling.

Here are the games where you can play for money on Virgin:
  • Fifa 2012
  • Battlefield 3
  • Madden 2012
  • NHL 2012
  • NBA 2012

Details here.
 
avatar33 said:
They DO have it for Madden. Go ahead and make those millions. Come show us a screenshot of your earnings when you're balling.

Here are the games where you can play for money on Virgin:
  • Fifa 2012
  • Battlefield 3
  • Madden 2012
  • NHL 2012
  • NBA 2012

Details here.
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Good looks bro! But looks like im too late: " Tournament runs from September 11, 2011 at 7:00 AM EST to October 16, 2011 at 11:59 PM EST"

Remind me next year bro and we can split those millions!

I remember EA used to run the Madden Challenge every year and come to major cities, but I dont think they did one this year.
 
Moxie said:
Yeah, it's already considered illegal in Arizona, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Maryland, Montana, Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee and Vermont.
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Got a source for this? This is a skilled game, not gambling.

Also I remember a few years back there was an online gaming service that paid out real money for playing certain first person shooters like counterstrike. I guess it never took off though. It was for PC only.
 
bluechinagroup said:
Got a source for this? This is a skilled game, not gambling.

Also I remember a few years back there was an online gaming service that paid out real money for playing certain first person shooters like counterstrike. I guess it never took off though. It was for PC only.
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This is a skilled game, so it doesn't fall under the federal law: Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

However, certain states have restrictions against online tournaments for cash, even if they are skill based.

There's a lot of money in this idea, I tried to get a developer buddy onboard to build a product like this about 4 months ago. Still, there's a ton of marketshare out there to grab. Have at it guys, gaming would be a fun industry to work in!
 
Virgin Gaming, BeGosu, Tournament.com (and several others) have been doing this for years. It's interesting that they target mostly consoles. Counter-Strike, Starcraft, WoW Arenas are arguably some of the most competitive games _ever_.
 
bluechinagroup said:
Got a source for this? This is a skilled game, not gambling.

Also I remember a few years back there was an online gaming service that paid out real money for playing certain first person shooters like counterstrike. I guess it never took off though. It was for PC only.
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It's the wagering that makes something gambling, not whether it's on a game of skill or not. Some states (like here in North Carolina) allow gambling only on skill-based games. Some other states make all gambling illegal, and some other states allow specific games, etc.

Falian said:
This is a skilled game, so it doesn't fall under the federal law: Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

However, certain states have restrictions against online tournaments for cash, even if they are skill based.

There's a lot of money in this idea, I tried to get a developer buddy onboard to build a product like this about 4 months ago. Still, there's a ton of marketshare out there to grab. Have at it guys, gaming would be a fun industry to work in!
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Just reiterating here: The UIGEA isn't a federal law making online gambling illegal. There is no federal law making online gambling illegal. Additionally, the UIGEA does apply to deposits dealing with gambling on games of skill in states where all [non-state sponsored] gambling is illegal, like Maryland for example. It's worth noting that withdrawals are protected and made explicitly legal in the UIGEA, even on illegal gambling, which is part of the reason why Black Friday was so ridiculous, but I won't go off on that tangent.

For people interested, here's a quick chart summarizing the gambling laws on a state-by-state basis: State Gambling Law Summary for all US States

The Dominant Factor Test listed in the first column is whether or not gambling on games that are predominantly skill is allowed. This is what allows chess tournaments, for example, to be legal.
 
I played counterstrike for money for years back in the day.
The only way it works is LAN's and real "referees" that review demos and know how to detect cheaters. A simple little tournament/match system would be terrible.
 
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