Google Rank Tracker

capone2009

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So I want my own G rank tracker script that works something like rankcheckerace but with not that many features and maybe an admin interface from themeforest.

I would love to be able to do this myself but I have zero programming knowledge. So I wanted to hire someone to do this for me but they are asking for $5k. Is this really that difficult to code? I mean I have no experience so I don't really know if this price is reasonable (which totally sucks when you want to hire someone for dev and have no clue about it)..

I've also heard that it's not that easy to scrape the G serps, when you have to track a few thousand keywords per day. Any experience with this?

I even thought about trying to learn python (you guys seem to love this) but is this even possible to realize with python?

I'm kinda lost, would appreciate any input.
 


Do a group buy lol ... I'd be super interested if that would be allowed.
 
I woud be totally down for a group buy, I don't know if it's allowed to organize one here, but it says networking is ok.

Let's see what our wf coder elite has to say first :)
 
There's a fair bit to it, but nothing overly complex. Obviously, you need proxies, local Google sites, throttling limits, different user agents each which show a different formatting of results, etc. Then Google will also sometimes spit out different results depending on where the proxy IP is located. For example, you may get different results if the proxy is located in Italy vs. the US.

Again, there's a fair bit to it, but nothing that's mind-blowingly complex. If you wanted some help with it, feel free to drop me a PM.
 
Preface: Keep in mind that I know virtually nothing about programming.

Instead of having to reinvent the wheel, wouldn't it be possible to use something like the rank checker in scrapebox, export those results to a database and setup the interface to work with that. Theoretically, you'd be able to chart results over time, automate graphing and position changes.

I know that a ton of scrapebox stuff can be automated, but I'm not sure if the rank checker can be. Naturally you'd still need your VPS or Dedi plus proxies, but you'd need those with a custom built solution anyway.

Like I said, I don't even know if that's possible or easier than going full custom from scratch, but I'd think putting something like that together would probably be lest costly than 5k.
 
Just pay for a SaaS like Authority Labs, there's really no reason to build your own save for the learning experience. If you just want your own rank tracker, it's stupid to invest in a developer to build you one unless you have really unique feature requests or something else odd like that.

Scraping Google isn't hard, but when you want to recreate local results accurately it becomes a bitch.

And building something reliable and feature rich with a good interface should cost way more than $5k. No one here fucking appreciates what good development and design work really costs. Thinking "all I want is a rank tracker, $5k is too expensive" is a useless mindset without having a full technical spec/feature list to base that opinion off of. $5k could be really cheap or really expensive depending on your needs and front end requirements. A shitty app that spits out a CSV daily of rankings could be done for cheap, a well thought out front end with a good AJAX based UI should cost wayyyyy more than $5k
 
There's a fair bit to it, but nothing overly complex. Obviously, you need proxies, local Google sites, throttling limits, different user agents each which show a different formatting of results, etc. Then Google will also sometimes spit out different results depending on where the proxy IP is located. For example, you may get different results if the proxy is located in Italy vs. the US.

Again, there's a fair bit to it, but nothing that's mind-blowingly complex. If you wanted some help with it, feel free to drop me a PM.

Thanks, besides proxies these are probably the parts I would have overlooked. But as you say, it doesn't sound too complex.

Preface: Keep in mind that I know virtually nothing about programming.

Instead of having to reinvent the wheel, wouldn't it be possible to use something like the rank checker in scrapebox, export those results to a database and setup the interface to work with that. Theoretically, you'd be able to chart results over time, automate graphing and position changes.

I know that a ton of scrapebox stuff can be automated, but I'm not sure if the rank checker can be. Naturally you'd still need your VPS or Dedi plus proxies, but you'd need those with a custom built solution anyway.

Like I said, I don't even know if that's possible or easier than going full custom from scratch, but I'd think putting something like that together would probably be lest costly than 5k.

Thanks for the input, as I don't have any dev experience either I don't know if that would work but honestly I would rather try to avoid using a Windows program for this system, I don't think it would work as smooth, but what do I know.

Just pay for a SaaS like Authority Labs, there's really no reason to build your own save for the learning experience. If you just want your own rank tracker, it's stupid to invest in a developer to build you one unless you have really unique feature requests or something else odd like that.

Scraping Google isn't hard, but when you want to recreate local results accurately it becomes a bitch.

And building something reliable and feature rich with a good interface should cost way more than $5k. No one here fucking appreciates what good development and design work really costs. Thinking "all I want is a rank tracker, $5k is too expensive" is a useless mindset without having a full technical spec/feature list to base that opinion off of. $5k could be really cheap or really expensive depending on your needs and front end requirements. A shitty app that spits out a CSV daily of rankings could be done for cheap, a well thought out front end with a good AJAX based UI should cost wayyyyy more than $5k

Obviously I want to own this thing and get my customers to sign up for it. Otherwise it would make no sense of course. I don't need anything feature rich, basically what it should be able to do is:

* create user accounts
* let user add urls and keys
* track rankings once per day (one country would be enough if this makes it less complex)
* in the userinterface show position for keywords from today,yesterday,last week,last month (no fancy graphs needed)
* maybe save the whole ranking history for each keyword in another part (also only the positions as numbers)
* the userinterface does not need to look good, but isn't it even easier to use a themeforest theme for this?

That's basically what I want it to be able to do for now.

Any idea how many hours a somewhat experienced programmer would need for this setup? As I said, it's not that I don't appreciate the art of programming, but it is very hard for me to judge how long this would really take someone to do.
 
Define "irony":

Somebody starting a forum thread for creating his own rank tracker while promoting a rank tracker software in his signature.
 
Damn, how did I miss the other thread, thanks! secockpit is more a keyword tool, they have a rank tracker but it sucks compared to others.

I would still appreciate an answer for my question though, so I can get a better feel for how much hours are involved in this approximately. Thanks guys
 
communism to the rescue

Serposcope - An open source rank checker for SEO

If you need to check a few thousand keywords a day why not just rankcheckerace's pro plan or sign up to 3 or 4 of the existing services instead of forking over $5k for something that has the potential to cause more headaches down the road depending on how good/bad your coder is?

And yea python can do it if you want to take the time to learn it, getting the basics down of any language is crucial if you're going to outsource IMO. You would be surprised, or maybe not, by the amount of coders on sites like odesk who say they have xx years of experience but can't answer a simple question that a person with a few weeks of programming experience would nail.
 
Thanks for the link. As I said, I want to run my own tracker for my clients so they can create the accounts for themselves. If it was just for my own projects I would of course not fuck with coding a completely new tracker.
 
What is your competitive advantage?

It doesn't seem like lots of capital to throw at it.
It's not programming.

Marketing, maybe?
 
^^ Sounds like he already has his client base, and instead of referring them to 3rd party services for rank tracking, he'd prefer just to have an in-house rank tracker for them.

Maybe I'm wrong though.
 
I have a competitive advantage, it's somewhat like Kiopa_Matt said.

And no I don't want to spend too much money on it because I actually don't want it to become a big project, I want to keep it very basic and it's more for keeping customers with me, so I don't plan to make much money from it directly.
 
There are some rank tracker that allow white labeling, not only the reports but also the account or even domain.

Would that do the job?
 
There are some rank tracker that allow white labeling, not only the reports but also the account or even domain.

Would that do the job?

This should really be what you should do OP. Also, I would think about the idea of giving clients direct access to their rank data, it's almost always more of a headache than it's worth.
 
There are some rank tracker that allow white labeling, not only the reports but also the account or even domain.

Would that do the job?

If someone can show me an existing tracker that allows this stuff and let's me decide on the price for the client then this would probably be by far the best option but I don't know any of these.

I see rankwatch does offer something like this but their plans start at $300/m which is too much for my needs. On top of that I need people to be able to add their own sites for themselves, so that would be the next problem with a white label offer like that.
 
If someone can show me an existing tracker that allows this stuff and let's me decide on the price for the client then this would probably be by far the best option but I don't know any of these.

I see rankwatch does offer something like this but their plans start at $300/m which is too much for my needs. On top of that I need people to be able to add their own sites for themselves, so that would be the next problem with a white label offer like that.

If $300/month is too much for what you need, you should probably just move on to working on other stuff rather than continue discussing this topic. It's pointless now.
 
You're also probably underestimating the amount of proxies you would need for a lot of keywords.