Google throws a wrench in Market Samurai's business:



If Google shuts down too many of these services like MS, it's going to make it look like they're getting fewer searches and losing market share.
 
Any ultimate niche finder users want to weigh in on this? The software isn't that expensive, but I would just as soon not buy it if its going to die before I can really get started with it.

gakt updates break the kw expansion functionality from time to time, but they push out updates to address that very quickly and in the meantime you can always import a gakt csv export. all in all, i'm very impressed with unf

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I'm amazed this didn't happen sooner.

MS is great but they have been extremely shortsighted for a VERY long time.

breaking news: product which charges a one-time fee but has ongoing operating costs forced to charge monthly fees. shocker!

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If Google shuts down too many of these services like MS, it's going to make it look like they're getting fewer searches and losing market share.

1) Google didn't shut them down, they just can't figure out how to make requests at the volume they need to without getting banned

2) Google gets far more queries per day than you probably think. Market Samurai is probably is lucky if they're a blip on the radar to Google.
 
I totally understand this logic, who needs money?

Attn. Rob: buy that mailing list now, it's not getting any cheaper & is about to get very spammed out very quickly.
 
1) Google didn't shut them down, they just can't figure out how to make requests at the volume they need to without getting banned

2) Google gets far more queries per day than you probably think. Market Samurai is probably is lucky if they're a blip on the radar to Google.

This.

Google does not cap searches (err... why would they?) They just throw out idiots who are obviously scraping their search results.

There is so many ways around this (as this thread shows), it is ridiculous.

The mail from MS is pure bullshit.

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1) Google didn't shut them down, they just can't figure out how to make requests at the volume they need to without getting banned

2) Google gets far more queries per day than you probably think. Market Samurai is probably is lucky if they're a blip on the radar to Google.

Twas a joke. I forgot to insert smiley.gif
 
each request made by my bots is from a fresh Mechanize instant with no previous cookies and different user agents and stuff. It's a bunch of brand new requests at all times, there's no paper trail.

And I'm sure this goes the same for MSM as it does me, but rather than improve MS' software, we just built the tools we always wanted and opened them up to customers because we were tired of frustration with inferior products. MSM launched at a perfect time in my opinion given the state of affairs in the rank tracking world...
+1 mechanize

shit is the bomb
 
Link-assistant came out blasting with an email today that basically says MS is full of shit and that Google hasn't changed a thing...

"We're getting 100s of worried requests from users so we decided to explain this web rumor.

Rumors of a drastic Google algo change started spreading after another SEO software house officially announced their software stopped working with Google. What Market Samurai told its users is, "Several days ago, Google made some significant technical changes to its services" which made it impossible to work with.

Now hundreds of ex-customers of Market Samurai and our own users write to our support: Is SEO PowerSuite working? Is it safe to buy SEO PowerSuite license now when other tools are failing to work?

The answer is YES, your software is working and will work with all search engines (Google as well, until the end of Google.) We are able to guarantee that SEO PowerSuite is the safest SEO software to invest in.

So - right, SEO PowerSuite keeps working. The thing is, what is proclaimed a Google's technical change doesn't look so and has never been confirmed by anyone outside Market Samurai team. Our team of search engines experts confirms no changes to Google algos - and the speaking evidence for that is the seamlessly working SEO PowerSuite.

No other reasons for Market Samurai's software failure have ever been officially named. However, more realistic reasons were suggested by their former users, assumed by many SEOs on all kind of Internet forums - and never commented on by the Samurai representatives. So the actual reasons for the fail are assumable and lie in a strategic error at the early stage of designing the software architecture. Our experts say, the estimate of fixing such error to restore an SEO tool to a fully working condition is about half a year.

Seeing that now Samurai is planning to switch to Bing instead of Google, we assume the estimate is right.

So let us once again disprove the rumor: Google made no changes and nothing happened to it at all. More to that, whenever changes to Google happen in the future, SEO PoweSuite will keep working seamlessly.

As many know, for 7 years on the market Link-Assistant.Com software has been working reliably. And we can guarantee reliable work of all SEO PowerSuite tools in future, with a team of engineers and analysts monitoring search engines every day.

So if you've ever been choosing between SEO PowerSuite and another software, or if you see your other SEO software is facing problems now or any time later, it's time to make the safest investment and order SEO PowerSuite.

Best regards,
Link-Assistant.Com Team"
 
>So the actual reasons for the fail are assumable and lie in a strategic error at the early stage of designing the software architecture. Our experts say, the estimate of fixing such error to restore an SEO tool to a fully working condition is about half a year.

What is meant by this? That they should've shipped the querying code and do it client-side?
 
>So the actual reasons for the fail are assumable and lie in a strategic error at the early stage of designing the software architecture. Our experts say, the estimate of fixing such error to restore an SEO tool to a fully working condition is about half a year.

What is meant by this? That they should've shipped the querying code and do it client-side?

Basically, yes. And Link Assistant is making some completely out of thin air claim of 6 months to fix the MS codebase because they're a competitor and want to make it seem like MS users are fucked and need to jump ship. Marketing is marketing is marketing.
 
market samurai is a flawed business model, and abuses google too much.

They need a server side solution, I completely stand by goofle on this, what is the fucking point in 1000 users doing rank checking for the same keyword a day?

It bogs down google's servers, and i bet if any one of you were running google, youd ban these dickwads straight away. A server side solution will just scrape the serp for tht keyword once per day. Simples. the results are kept in archive by the rank tracker, and then everyone who wants to rank track their site for that keyword get the data from their archive.
 
market samurai is a flawed business model, and abuses google too much.

They need a server side solution, I completely stand by goofle on this, what is the fucking point in 1000 users doing rank checking for the same keyword a day?

It bogs down google's servers, and i bet if any one of you were running google, youd ban these dickwads straight away. A server side solution will just scrape the serp for tht keyword once per day. Simples. the results are kept in archive by the rank tracker, and then everyone who wants to rank track their site for that keyword get the data from their archive.

I imagine you don't have to do the scraping server-side if you want to serve the content from there. It's a bit more complex and you have to make sure you don't get fed malicious data, but if your users are willing to put your code on their PC, why not use those resources?