Half ass job.. am I wrong here?

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This guy uniquecontent is an idiot.. let me explain why:

I hired him on June 8 to do a job. Everything was great - I was shown a PSD relatively quickly.. I think about 3 days after payment. So far.. so good..

Once the PSD was done I paid him to code the psd into a website (html)... it took a week longer than he said, but hey, what can ya do?

Now, im not sure about you guys, but when you get a website coded.. you expect to be able to edit the files in your program of choice, whether it be notepad, dreamweaver or something else. Well, this is where the problem comes in...

This asshole says to me when I told hey him "I cannot edit the files html in dreamweaver" ... he says: "listen i dont code the website in tables and i never check thru view option .. i juss coce it and then check my outputs in browsers"

When asked to fix it, so that I can edit the fucking site in dreamweaver, this piece of shit says to me "if you dont know the coding then what can i do"

Listen mother fucker, I know how to code. I just don't want to take my ass into the code every fucking time I want to edit something cuz your too fucking stupid to do it properly.

Am I being crazy because I expect a job I paid for to be done properly? The whole purpose of paying for it to be CODED is so that you can EDIT the site and just edit/delete/add text. Specifically, without having to go digging into the fucking code and finding what needs to be changed.. thats what dreamweaver is for.

Buyer beware. This fucker wouldn't even fix it to make it right when givin the chance. Im pissed off cuz of his fucking little line ""if you dont know the coding then what can i do" what the hell are you trying to pull? You should have done it properly.
 


I think it's comparable to an article writer giving you a written out article but formatted like shit.

Sure, it will get the job done and technically they got the job 'done' but the quality of work just means that you're going to have to spend your time fixing the mistakes that you paid them to fix in the first place?

Not sure if that makes sense but I think it's a dick move on his part.

-Konstantin.
 
HiGhPeR said:
Am I being crazy because I expect a job I paid for to be done properly? The whole purpose of paying for it to be CODED is so that you can EDIT the site and just edit/delete/add text. Specifically, without having to go digging into the fucking code and finding what needs to be changed.. thats what dreamweaver is for.
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Honestly, unless you specifically asked that he code the site so that it could be edited in Dreamweaver I'd say you share in the blame on this one.

Most failed creative projects fail because the client does not correctly state what he wants in the first place and then attacks the designer for not reading his mind when it doesn't come out right.

Although his customer service sounds horrible it's really up to you to define what you want clearly. In the future specifically state in the contract that you want to be able to edit the site in Dreamweaver and you'll magically not have these problems.

You may not get another chance with this guy though, because if I were still doing client work and we were working together, I'd fire you as a client immediately.
 
LOL you are pissed at a coder because he coded something with code instead of by slicing it up in dreamweaver like any idiot can do? Dreamweaver is the FrontPage of 2010. Quality designers/coders do not slice up PSDs in dreamweaver - they write the HTML/CSS themselves. That means that it will be fast loading, work in every browser, and not be a piece of shit mess that can never be modified. Frequently, dreamweaver design view does not necessarily render the page well (no idea why they can't just latch onto your browser's rendering engine) if it was not created by their own P.O.S. system, which actually makes code that often does't work in every browser.

You should be thanking your designer for coding the website properly, not opening a thread publicly shitting on him for not blindly pressing dreamweaver buttons and doing what any monkey can do.
 
You think theres something wrong with wanting your html files to load in dreamweaver so you can edit things easier? that's new to me..

chatmasta said:
LOL you are pissed at a coder because he coded something with code instead of by slicing it up in dreamweaver like any idiot can do? Dreamweaver is the FrontPage of 2010. Quality designers/coders do not slice up PSDs in dreamweaver - they write the HTML/CSS themselves. That means that it will be fast loading, work in every browser, and not be a piece of shit mess that can never be modified. Frequently, dreamweaver design view does not necessarily render the page well (no idea why they can't just latch onto your browser's rendering engine) if it was not created by their own P.O.S. system, which actually makes code that often does't work in every browser.

You should be thanking your designer for coding the website properly, not opening a thread publicly shitting on him for not blindly pressing dreamweaver buttons and doing what any monkey can do.
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Is Dreamweaver a bit gayer than it used to be then? I don't use it, but hand code compliant shit, surely that would open fine in DW? I'm really puzzled how the code can't be edited, surely it works in notepad?
 
Yes.

1. Dreamweaver is shit. Learn something good instead.
2. If you did not specify it, it is not part of the contract.

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-God- said:
Is Dreamweaver a bit gayer than it used to be then? I don't use it, but hand code compliant shit, surely that would open fine in DW? I'm really puzzled how the code can't be edited, surely it works in notepad?
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Pretty sure it has it's own rendering engine, so it doesn't recognize a lot of complicated (or not so complicated) CSS stuff that every browser renders fine. It's easy enough to load up any layout and edit text in Design View, but if you want to edit the actual layout you should not be using that.
 
Yep, you are wrong

You expected him to read your mind and you gave him half assed instructions. Motherfucker turns in pure html/css code and you are upset you can't suck from dreamweaver's nipple.

+rep to uniquecontent for dealing with a POS customer like yourself who goes and cries publicly because they don't like looking at html code. Cry me a fucking river.
 
I ordered some coded designs from him and I couldn't edit them in MS Paint. I was like WTF man? And then he was like- bro, why not just edit the code? And I was like dude, code is for nerds, I only fuck with Paint and Microsoft Works - can you code it so I can edit in MS Works? And he was like, uhh no. And I was like fuck you man, I'm going to rage on your ass on WF and turn everyone against... me. Cuz I'm a fucking idiot who pays for services and then flips out when oddball requests I don't tell the service provider about aren't completed based on some weird chance that he can telepathically receive job requirements I don't mention to him. And then I realized I'm a failure and bought a generic pack of job applications from Staples to fill out and canvas fast food restaurants with so I can serve my life's intended purpose.

**EDIT - can a mod please close the thread. He just got in touch with me to make things right. He fixed everything so I can now edit my shit in CoffeeCup WYSIWYG on a Windows 97 box.
 
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^^^ lol

@OP: i think you got it wrong...it's the other way around, actually..first there was code, THEN there was that so-called POS "design" mode.. (in a somewhat metaphorical way of saying things)

as others have said above, the fact that he coded the site by hand means you received a product of much higher quality than what Dreamweaver spits out..

have you ever seen the shitcode that software generates? It ought to give multiple headaches to anyone staring at it for more than few seconds..
 
OK... having had a first cup of coffee, I seem to be coming down from the grumpy mode I was in for the last few days ... damn.

As others have pointed out, the problem is the rendering engine.

A lot of non-techies do not know that, HTML is interpreted by a given rendering engine. Browsers, such as IE, firefox, etc, but also other programs displaying HTML - or trying to. problem is, that there IS a standard on how to do this, but still everyone mucks around. Reasons for this are many, underlying it all is: It ain't no easy task.

You might have the best HTML around, if the rendering engine does not interpret it right, you are out of luck.

An editing program, such as dreamweaver adds another layer to this, as it not only has to display the HTML / CSS, it also has to make it editable in a WYSIWIG editor.

Naturally, these programs are updated slower than the rest of the web, which leads to your current predicament. Great CSS / HTML code, but dreamweaver does not know what to do with it.

Next time you task someone, give them the whole task as in:
"Code me this design in HTML / CSS so that I can edit it using dreamweaver version 0.7"

If you omitted that information, then yes, you are wrong.

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I LOL'd

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Dreamweaver. If they stripped the Dreamweaver part out and left the HomeSite part, I'd be happy :/

If you code why hire someone to do it for you then say they didn't do it right? Sheesh, do you go out to the mexicans that build your fence and ask them to use rubber mallets instead of hammers because you're better with them? fail.
 
Etherswift said:
^^^ lol

@OP: i think you got it wrong...it's the other way around, actually..first there was code, THEN there was that so-called POS "design" mode.. (in a somewhat metaphorical way of saying things)

as others have said above, the fact that he coded the site by hand means you received a product of much higher quality than what Dreamweaver spits out..

have you ever seen the shitcode that software generates? It ought to give multiple headaches to anyone staring at it for more than few seconds..
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Nail. Head. Hit.

I just re-read the OP and how people have mentioned DW works with "code".

Looks like the OP got good work and he'd rather it was shitter. If i sent someone a PSD to turn into a template and they sent it back as tables i'd be a bit pissed off for the shit code, but at least it saved me doing it.

If on the other hand someone sends you proper standardised code from a psd, i'd be doing cartwheels. Fuck editing in dreamweaver... Next thing is gonna be whinging that Internet Explorer 6 won't display many websites... Or that all versions of IE interpret CSS in the way a retard interprets trigonometry... Or that the sky is blue...

@OP, download Notepad++ because editing code in that is a piece of piss.
 
.......I think everyone took this post out to left field.. I said I know how to code. I just dont want to have to go INTO the code every time I want to change something.. as most of you know, CODING is A BITCH. I fucking hate coding. I'd much rather open up my trusty dreamweaver (yes, not fucking notepad) to edit something in 3 seconds than open notepad and take 3 minutes. Yeah... call me fucking crazy.

@-god- not everyone is a fucking nerd with days upon days to code shit by hand. I got other shit to do. And how the fuck someone can call this "good" work when it wont even function in the simplest of programs is beyond me.
 
First and last time i've ever used someone to code. I'll stick to having PSD's drawn up and do the slicing and TABLES myself. And I am only saying he didnt do it right cuz he fucking didn't. In my 13 years of making sites, when I go to open something in dreamweaver, say a template, OH WOW it opens.

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I LOL'd

:1orglaugh:

Dreamweaver. If they stripped the Dreamweaver part out and left the HomeSite part, I'd be happy :/

If you code why hire someone to do it for you then say they didn't do it right? Sheesh, do you go out to the mexicans that build your fence and ask them to use rubber mallets instead of hammers because you're better with them? fail.
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