Hard Hard Being Newbie!!

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hello Guys, How are you doing blablbalbalblab... juts to introduce myself. I'm just beginning with internet marketing. been 2 months now.. with Google Aword I got slupped for hundreds of dollars :mad:. that sucks big time. I almost quit everything. but after surfing your forum and some other I realise that everyone went through that shit.
I'm still having trouble to find a good strategy to make money with less costs. Still having trouble to find a good niche that is not exploited. the competition is wild on google adwords and everywhere else.

Any guidance from you guys. THE EXPERTS :rasta:

have a good day
 


Embrace your failures. Caress your failures. Spank your Failures. Become one with them.
 
Start with yahoo. Easier and Cheaper. Analyze your campaign for a few days / weeks, then take your best kws and launch a google campaign only with those and the usual adwords process (laser targetted adgrps, ultra relevant lps, outbound links and blah blah... google sux.)
 
Ju got 2 learz from urz failurz and adapt ur strategies.

Seriously though... the stuff that you're promoting matters as well. Hydra has a shitload of good stuff you can promote here: http://www.lynxtrack.com/afclick.php?o=5831&b=y301cm4r&p=14&s=16974-120x60.

Also pick up a copy of Make Your Words Sell here: Make Your Words Sell!
This is an excellent book that will give you a very solid understanding of ...well... what the title says. This will help with Ad writing and landing pages.
 
jeanpaul1979 said:
Ju got 2 learz from urz failurz and adapt ur strategies.

Seriously though... the stuff that you're promoting matters as well. Hydra has a shitload of good stuff you can promote here: http://www.lynxtrack.com/afclick.php?o=5831&b=y301cm4r&p=14&s=16974-120x60.

Also pick up a copy of Make Your Words Sell here: Make Your Words Sell!
This is an excellent book that will give you a very solid understanding of ...well... what the title says. This will help with Ad writing and landing pages.
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nice :anon.sml:
 
Dawmz said:
Start with yahoo. Easier and Cheaper. Analyze your campaign for a few days / weeks, then take your best kws and launch a google campaign only with those and the usual adwords process (laser targetted adgrps, ultra relevant lps, outbound links and blah blah... google sux.)
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What converts on yahoo doesn't allows convert the same on google or msn or how ever you want to mix it.
 
Xrproto said:
What converts on yahoo doesn't allows convert the same on google or msn or how ever you want to mix it.
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Sure, but it still gives a valid base of what kind of things work or not. Ok keyword xyz might convert @ 10% on yahoo and 12% on google but if a keyword converts @ 0% on 300 clicks on yahoo, you can safely bet it won't be profitable on google. And at least, you can test things on yahoo without having to build a website with 250k pages of unique content only written for the QS bot.
 
jeanpaul1979, who is a year younger than me, just gave you l33t advice. Follow his advice so jeanpaul1979 can follow you to his bank. KThxbye.

Yes, OP, posting on a forum will net you 100% solid advice. Afterall, people that spent years learning will want to give up in a forum thread.
 
Dawmz said:
Sure, but it still gives a valid base of what kind of things work or not. Ok keyword xyz might convert @ 10% on yahoo and 12% on google but if a keyword converts @ 0% on 300 clicks on yahoo, you can safely bet it won't be profitable on google. And at least, you can test things on yahoo without having to build a website with 250k pages of unique content only written for the QS bot.
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That's flawed in so many ways.

But if you want to think you're playing it safe by testing keywords on yahoo to run on your adwords campaigns by all means don't stop.
 
Google is a fun time if you know how it works. To be honest with you, you'll really only figure it out just by running tons of campaigns and losing a crapload of money. Basically you will pay for your education. But when it clicks you'll be quite pleased...
 
don't spend your money on adwords until you test a product with free sources of internet marketing. Write articles, create blogs, squidoo lenses, etc. and see how to product does first.
 
You'll appreciate this fact 1-2 years from now once you're not a newbie anymore and have that leverage against the new newbies. :) It is difficult for anybody to break into Internet Marketing, but once you've broken through that initial barrier with persistence, it is much easier to maneuver your way around, utilize built reputation, dodge slaps, realize stability and continue to increase efficiency. This makes it harder for newbies to break into it but easier for the established to maintain it.

Just be glad. It may have been easier to establish yourself back in 1999, but it's still much easier now to establish yourself than 10 years from now will be when even more people flock online to make a living. This is just the beginning of the efficient/information age - More and more jobs will inevitably be forced online over the next few years whether people want to work online or not. Now's the time to start!
 
Don't give up......work......work......and work some more!
Think multiple streams of income so if one stops you have a few other engines to keep you flying.
Do follow the advice of intimate contact w/your failures until you become one (valuable lessons are always learned) BTW-if you have pictures of the spanking....you can post it here, WF members like that sort of stuff! lol
 
Lots of good advise in this thread. Unfortunately, there is no "college of IM" that you can learn this from (yet) and even the gurus don't want to tell you the real truth, just half truths. My advise? Read as many ebooks as you can, (but don't pay for them) Even though people say they suck (and they do, they really do-especially if you have to pay for them-) they are really the only way you are going to learn anything. I am now addicted to videos, as it really is a monkey see monkey do occupation
 
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