How a 21 year old Made $2.5 Million Online and Blew it all in a Year

andrewfashion said:
$120k is a pussy investment, and you should know that. Most business could wipe their ass with $120k you naive moron. It's called design, identity, and development. When you hire a firm, things cost money, you don't hire indians to build a great idea, and expect quality fucking code/design.

Only multi-fucking-millionaires pay their houses off in cash dumbass.
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You're fucking retarded. I was in the Myspace game too. I invested into properties, I didn't buy cars like your stupid ass. Don't try to school me about this shit when you're the one who's the broke businessman here. Show a little modesty and less arrogance.

You can get a very profitable website (That can earn 6 figures a month) coded for less than 120k without outsourcing to India, you're just a fucking douche bag with with a big mouth and no money management skills.

Also I am sure you did get a ton of pussy. But you already admitted a few posts up that you paid for pussy. I bet you did show them your duck face though since you probably thought that you were charming doing that.
 
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bluechinagroup said:
You're fucking retarded. I was in the Myspace game too. I invested into properties, I didn't buy cars like your stupid ass. Don't try to school me about this shit when you're the one who's the broke businessman here. Show a little modesty and less arrogance.

You can get a very profitable website (That can earn 6 figures a month) coded for less than 120k without outsourcing to India, you're just a fucking douche bag with with a big mouth and no money management skills.

Also I am sure you did get a ton of pussy. But you already admitted a few posts up that you paid for pussy. I bet you did show them your duck face though since you probably thought that you were charming doing that.
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I'm the arrogant one? When you were the first to jump to conclusions and talk shit. I wasn't trying to build Google AdSense websites to get measly fucking clicks like your dumb ass, I am building an entire website with e-commerce and networking, into one, idiot. You have no idea what Drivable is or even looks like, so stop fucking assuming.

And I'm the one with the big mouth, when you're the one who came in jumping to conclusions w/ a little potty mouth stupid cunt.

Paid for pussy, it's called strip clubs you moron. You don't fuck strippers... Or maybe you do.

You're trying to act like you're the "successful" bad ass when you aren't the one with all the fucking cards on the table you fucking chauvinistic pig. Modesty? Modesty?

"doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to SEO and just got lucky." -- Coming from Bluechina man, the most modest of them all!

Duck face? Let's see what your face looks like you ugly ass faggot. You wanna talk shit over the internet, and be big daddy. Fly your rich ass down here, queer: 6789 W. Coal Mine Ave., Littleton, CO

Shut the fuck up, you ignorant idiot.

PS: Everyone makes mistakes, and picks themselves back up, I was 19 years old.

PPS: And of course you were in the MySpace game, probably using my script that I spent fucking hours on writing myself, that my jackass partner stole and started reselling. Give me your domains, so I can use the Way Back Machine on your shit. Fool.
 
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andrewfashion said:
I'm the arrogant one? When you were the first to jump to conclusions and talk shit. I wasn't trying to build Google AdSense websites to get measly fucking clicks like your dumb ass, I am building an entire website with e-commerce and networking, into one, idiot. You have no idea what Drivable is or even looks like, so stop fucking assuming.
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Hello friend,

No should be so angry. It no good for health. It normal that the more money you make or made the more people hate you.

Good luck bro
 
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andrewfashion said:
I'm the arrogant one? When you were the first to jump to conclusions and talk shit. I wasn't trying to build Google AdSense websites to get measly fucking clicks like your dumb ass, I am building an entire website with e-commerce and networking, into one, idiot. You have no idea what Drivable is or even looks like, so stop fucking assuming.

And I'm the one with the big mouth, when you're the one who came in jumping to conclusions w/ a little potty mouth stupid cunt.

Paid for pussy, it's called strip clubs you moron. You don't fuck strippers... Or maybe you do.

You're trying to act like you're the "successful" bad ass when you aren't the one with all the fucking cards on the table you fucking chauvinistic pig. Modesty? Modesty?

"doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to SEO and just got lucky." -- Coming from Bluechina man, the most modest of them all!

Duck face? Let's see what your face looks like you ugly ass faggot. You wanna talk shit over the internet, and be big daddy. Fly your rich ass down here, queer: 6789 W. Coal Mine Ave., Littleton, CO

Shut the fuck up, you ignorant idiot.

PS: Everyone makes mistakes, and picks themselves back up, I was 19 years old.

PPS: And of course you were in the MySpace game, probably using my script that I spent fucking hours on writing myself, that my jackass partner stole and started reselling. Give me your domains, so I can use the Way Back Machine on your shit. Fool.
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andrewfashion said:
I'm the arrogant one? When you were the first to jump to conclusions and talk shit. I wasn't trying to build Google AdSense websites to get measly fucking clicks like your dumb ass, I am building an entire website with e-commerce and networking, into one, idiot. You have no idea what Drivable is or even looks like, so stop fucking assuming.

And I'm the one with the big mouth, when you're the one who came in jumping to conclusions w/ a little potty mouth stupid cunt.

Paid for pussy, it's called strip clubs you moron. You don't fuck strippers... Or maybe you do.

You're trying to act like you're the "successful" bad ass when you aren't the one with all the fucking cards on the table you fucking chauvinistic pig. Modesty? Modesty?

"doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to SEO and just got lucky." -- Coming from Bluechina man, the most modest of them all!

Duck face? Let's see what your face looks like you ugly ass faggot. You wanna talk shit over the internet, and be big daddy. Fly your rich ass down here, queer: 6789 W. Coal Mine Ave., Littleton, CO

Shut the fuck up, you ignorant idiot.

PS: Everyone makes mistakes, and picks themselves back up, I was 19 years old.

PPS: And of course you were in the MySpace game, probably using my script that I spent fucking hours on writing myself, that my jackass partner stole and started reselling. Give me your domains, so I can use the Way Back Machine on your shit. Fool.
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andrewfashion said:
LOL, I was 19. And I'm pretty sure you couldn't program to save your life against me. And I'm pretty sure I know more languages, and could out program you blindfolded ass wipe.

As far as SEO, SEO is not my expertise, programming is, douchebag. And it's been four years, people grow up, and learn new things. Get a grip, ass wipe.
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I've been respectful to you the whole time in this thread, so let's see if you can refrain from calling me an ass wipe like you have been calling everyone else...

Unfortunately for you, SEO makes more money than programming. You should know this better than anyone, considering MSS was making you a fuck ton of money. Why? Because of SEO. Not because of your amazing programming skills.

No offense, but making a site like MSS is not that hard. Most Indians could do it for <$1k. And then you hire some random ass designers and pay them like $40 whenever they make a new layout.

The part that really brings home the dough? SEO. You know it yourself. As soon as big G slapped your site silly, you were fucked.

Now I don't know how you got to page 1 in the first place, and I don't really care (since I have my own methods). But you have to admit that in terms of earning potential, SEO>Programming. That is, unless you happen to code some amazing script or application that nobody has ever been able to do and then you patent it or some shit. (Assuming you can patent scripts?? I have no idea.)
 
YouDontKnowMe said:
I've been respectful to you the whole time in this thread, so let's see if you can refrain from calling me an ass wipe like you have been calling everyone else...

Unfortunately for you, SEO makes more money than programming. You should know this better than anyone, considering MSS was making you a fuck ton of money. Why? Because of SEO. Not because of your amazing programming skills.

No offense, but making a site like MSS is not that hard. Most Indians could do it for <$1k. And then you hire some random ass designers and pay them like $40 whenever they make a new layout.

The part that really brings home the dough? SEO. You know it yourself. As soon as big G slapped your site silly, you were fucked.

Now I don't know how you got to page 1 in the first place, and I don't really care (since I have my own methods). But you have to admit that in terms of earning potential, SEO>Programming. That is, unless you happen to code some amazing script or application that nobody has ever been able to do and then you patent it or some shit. (Assuming you can patent scripts?? I have no idea.)
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Microsoft and Oracle have made more money than any SEO'er ever has. Brilliant SEO'ers can become millionaires. Brilliant programmers can become billionaires.
 
cardine said:
Microsoft and Oracle have made more money than any SEO'er ever has. Brilliant SEO'ers can become millionaires. Brilliant programmers can become billionaires.
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Let's not forget that programming brought us Google and all other sandboxes where SEOs play :D
 
cardine said:
Microsoft and Oracle have made more money than any SEO'er ever has. Brilliant SEO'ers can become millionaires. Brilliant programmers can become billionaires.
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Yeah but if you don't have any ideas, then programming skills are useless. I have the skills to code Facebook, but never would have thought of it.

andrewfashion, if you're such a great programmer why did you spend an exorbitant amount to outsource the programming of drivable and bemodel? surely you have plenty of spare time to write code yourself for FREE and exactly to your specifications...
 
johnmatrix said:
Yeah but if you don't have any ideas, then programming skills are useless. I have the skills to code Facebook, but never would have thought of it.

andrewfashion, if you're such a great programmer why did you spend an exorbitant amount to outsource the programming of drivable and bemodel? surely you have plenty of spare time to write code yourself for FREE and exactly to your specifications...
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Yeah like everyone that's banking off SEO still writes their own articles to blast all over interwebs.

I don't really understand haters in this thread. Time will tell if andrew's decisions are solid until then everyone should shut the fuck up. Is this a business/marketing forum or what?

Everyone makes mistakes, both personal and in business and hating on that just shows how big of a douchebag you are.
 
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cardine said:
Microsoft and Oracle have made more money than any SEO'er ever has. Brilliant SEO'ers can become millionaires. Brilliant programmers can become billionaires.
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How many programmers work for Microsoft? For Oracle?
Microsoft and Oracle are companies, not people. HUGE difference.

For example, my dad is a programmer for AT&T. He has a fucking Ph.D. in CS. Is he a billionaire? Fuck no. Neither are any of his colleagues. Millionaire? I guess if you add up his salary from his entire career, then yeah he's earned 7 figures. But that doesn't mean he has 7 figures of liquid assets.

But the CEO gets paid a lot right? Yes, he does. Nope, he's not a programmer. He's a finance guy: Randall Stephenson - Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President

Microsoft? Sure, Bill Gates is a billionaire. But not because of his programming skills. It's because he's a businessman.
 
johnmatrix said:
Yeah but if you don't have any ideas, then programming skills are useless. I have the skills to code Facebook, but never would have thought of it.
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Exactly. The programming skills have nothing to do with it. It's the idea that counts. And if you have the idea, you can just outsource the programming.
 
YouDontKnowMe said:
Exactly. The programming skills have nothing to do with it. It's the idea that counts. And if you have the idea, you can just outsource the programming.
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O really? Idea is what counts?

People have ideas all the times. And people also outsource ideas all the time without any success.

The whole mix is important... From the idea, to execution, to proper monetization and lastly IMO most importantly: intelligent marketing.

BUT I've also seen great programmers make such a good service it still became a success even though their marketing sucked ass.

And I've also seen great marketers push a product that's total crap with a lot of success.

So that's why if you understand how this works you won't make fast judgements.

Everything can work and anyone can fail miserably.
 
andrewfashion said:
I'm the arrogant one? When you were the first to jump to conclusions and talk shit. I wasn't trying to build Google AdSense websites to get measly fucking clicks like your dumb ass, I am building an entire website with e-commerce and networking, into one, idiot. You have no idea what Drivable is or even looks like, so stop fucking assuming.
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Getting a little hot under the collar there big guy? ;) I bet you showed that Duckface to all the venture capitalists investing in your string of failed ventures.

I wasn't jumping to conclusions. It's painfully obviously you don't know jack shit about SEO. Besides it was another SEO guy here on WF that pointed this out first.

Also you can build an entire website with "e-commerce and networking" for less than $120k. Especially since you're supposedly a programmer as others have pointed out.

Keep digging a bigger hole for yourself. Good luck with your next hustle.

andrewfashion said:
PPS: And of course you were in the MySpace game, probably using my script that I spent fucking hours on writing myself, that my jackass partner stole and started reselling.
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Nothing I was doing on Myspace was related to "Myspace bling". Trackers were my thing.
 
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