How Do YOU Invest Your IM Income?

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Hello friends,

I know it good for invest monies and no use all for live life of luxury.

But how decide how much use for invest and how much use for live good life?

I think now time good buy stock market. If it true recession is bottom then stock market is bottom to. Can only go up if bottom.

Good luck bros
 


Its just me but Ive always enjoyed building my own businesses instead of buying someone elses. Part of me likes the processes, its almost a sport in a way.

Its feels risky to me buying someone elses business, theyre going to want to sell it for as much as they can and inflating revenue while underreporting expenses Im sure isnt common.

Or something could happen like what happend to my barber when he bought out the local old guy - he restarted 2 blocks away and took all his clients with him.

I don't think we're talking about the same types of businesses. That's why I said stay away from service based businesses. All that barber needed to start back up again was some basic grooming equipment and to get the word out.

If you're buying businesses which require a heavy investment in specialized equipment and machinery, then it's less likely the former owner is going to start up down the road.

Anyway...

Works for me. Keep it north of 8 mile though - nobody actually wants to live inside of Detroit. You can get decent properties in Roseville, Eastpointe, Warren etc for $20k and rent them out for $900/month all day long. That's a sick ROI, plus you can leverage the equity in the house for a fat loan if you need one. The banks will go off of assessed value if you have good credit.

Holy shit... I just took a quick look at Roseville... 20k to 40k and you're in homes that go for at least five times that here. Now... how hard is it to manage property from across the country?
 
Real Estate, is the GO, specifically Rental properties. I tend to go for the long term and buy properties that have strong capital growth potential, which means, that Yes I am up for a bit of Cash on the front end (Purchase Time) however what I have found is that over time, there is less volatility and they tend to hold their value well.

So Yes there is a bit of debt attached, however, I still have significant equity in the properties and the tax advantages that come with it. So tend to buy Apartments within a 5-10 radius of the CBD.

Buying a service Business would be a Nightmare for my mind, but heck we are all different. Although there are certain types that are booming in this economy. *cough* brothels...
 
I have been paying off debt like there is no tomorrow. On the 25th we'll be completely out of CC debt. Next month we're adding on an addition to the house (tripling the size and covering our patio). The month after that we're paying off the car. The month after that I'm buying a Road King.

Then we start paying off the house, about 10-15k a month or so.

It's always been my dream to build a brick and mortar gaming center though. Kind of a combination LAN center with about 30 or so computers with a few pool tables and a computer repair/custom computer sale shop.
 
When you acquire a firm, you are only buying 2 things. Capital goods and the book of business. As Vinny said, if it's a service business and doesn't have much in the way of capital goods, then you MUST secure the exclusivity and continuity of the book of business.

A firm with customers but no equipment can be solved with a loan. But a firm with equipment and no customers is one giant flaming overhead.
 
read this book before you invest a penny into anything

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Random-Walk-Down-Wall-Street/dp/0393330338/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240216577&sr=8-1]Amazon.com: A Random Walk Down Wall Street: The Time-Tested Strategy for Successful Investing (Revised and Updated): Burton Malkiel Ph.D.: Books[/ame]

and no, don't just drop all your money into real estate like some of these retards are telling you.

if you must do real estate, investing in an REIT is a good way to invest in real estate without having do do any "work", but again, you don't want to drop all your money into it.

educate yourself, and don't listen to suggestions from people on internet marketing forums about investment strategies.
 
I don't think we're talking about the same types of businesses. That's why I said stay away from service based businesses. All that barber needed to start back up again was some basic grooming equipment and to get the word out.

If you're buying businesses which require a heavy investment in specialized equipment and machinery, then it's less likely the former owner is going to start up down the road.


Good point - never really considered it

read this book before you invest a penny into anything

Amazon.com: A Random Walk Down Wall Street: The Time-Tested Strategy for Successful Investing (Revised and Updated): Burton Malkiel Ph.D.: Books

and no, don't just drop all your money into real estate like some of these retards are telling you.

if you must do real estate, investing in an REIT is a good way to invest in real estate without having do do any "work", but again, you don't want to drop all your money into it.

educate yourself, and don't listen to suggestions from people on internet marketing forums about investment strategies.


More good points. I think theres a lot of value in joining your local real estate club - learning and networking. Some of them are really good like Capital City Wealth Builders that have monthly speakers and training at dirt cheap prices ($20 if that)...

You can't just jump into it headfirst until you know what you're doing.

But they say the money in RE is made when you buy, not when you sell. And it seems to me right now is a golden opportunity to buy... I was looking at properties off the coast in CA near where I'm from and they're back to 2000 prices, its pretty absurd.

REITs - I don't know much about them but I do know they're less risky and you're not going to make near as much money as getting your hands dirty yourself. IMO REITs are mostly a safe way for old/lazy/stupid/scared people to invest in RE. Risk vs Reward
 
The one thing i want to do is open a nicer full service bar. hire friends to help run it, 8 to 10 pool tables, hell maybe a beer pong table or two. just a place to chill. and vacation rental properties. i just got back today from a friend of the family's 3 story beach house. and he charges up the ass for it. there is the rental charge, and he charges per person after 4 people, we get it for 5 days every year at the same time for nothing because he is a badass, and he is 2 1/2 years out on renters, but he has 4 of these and this is all that he does, he is retired at age 29 because of these damn vacation rentals. this is something i want to do in the near future, with a topping of AM. these are my master plans as of right now.
 
REITs - I don't know much about them but I do know they're less risky and you're not going to make near as much money as getting your hands dirty yourself. IMO REITs are mostly a safe way for old/lazy/stupid/scared people to invest in RE. Risk vs Reward

There is absolutely NOTHING stupid/lazy/scared about making a safe investment with your money, especially when the time you'd have to spend learning, researching, and maintaining could be much more profitably spent in doing your job.
 
The problem with Real Estate (at least where I live) is that the net return is generally negative or barely positive after purchase (assuming you have an 80% mortgage). The gross return is somewhere around 5-6%, depending on area.

Yeah, plenty of people have gotten rich off houses, but that's mostly been all in the last 30-40 years. Guess what? The 1st world have just come off the biggest property boom in history, lasting approximately 30-40 years in length. It could (and probably will) stagnate or fall in price (in real terms) over the next 20+ years.

Businesses are a good idea, except serviced based as discussed and manufacturing was good one time but if I bought a manufacturing business now, I couldn't sleep at night thinking about China. I think import/export would be good or a manufacturing business that holds IP at home but builds shit offshore.

In the long term, the sharemarket will bounce back but it's probably got ome more falls in the next 12 months or so. At this stage of the game, my money would be in cash and paying down debt (especially cc debt, then work on any mortages you may have - I hear house payments are tax dedictible in the US). If you have no debt, I'd save some in a high interest account and with the rest I'd buy precious metals - gold & silver. They won't give you a 'return' as such, but they will protect your money against inflation.

It's highly likely the US won't be able to pay back the debts they owe other countries and will try to inflate their way out of debt. The way to do this is to print money (which incidently they don't even need to do that anymore they just keep pressing the '0' key until their bank balance is as large as they want.. I'm seriously not making this shit up). This means there is more money curculating around in the system which devalues the existing currency, so when you go to buy your new LCD TV, it's now twice as expensive as a month ago.

Anyway, good luck with whatever you buy bro.
 
Oh forgot to add... Brothels (if you have no moral problems with them) are a great investment apparently. I was speaking to a (legal) brothel owner the other day who told me that his brothel puts around $200k/yr into his pocket after expenses and all he has to do is sit at home and pay the bills on the internet. He hardly even goes inside (and no, he doesn't sample the goods.. 2nd question I asked)
 
read this book before you invest a penny into anything

Amazon.com: A Random Walk Down Wall Street: The Time-Tested Strategy for Successful Investing (Revised and Updated): Burton Malkiel Ph.D.: Books

and no, don't just drop all your money into real estate like some of these retards are telling you.

if you must do real estate, investing in an REIT is a good way to invest in real estate without having do do any "work", but again, you don't want to drop all your money into it.

educate yourself, and don't listen to suggestions from people on internet marketing forums about investment strategies.

Cakes You Do Make Some Fucking Stupid Generalisations Sometimes. No One in their right mind would blow their hard earned Moolah on the whims of people in an internet marketing forum, without at least getting Competent Independent Financial Advice.

Talk about stating the obvious...The OP asked for Ideas, so we have offered ours from experience...

I am not going to get into the Pros/Cons of what you called a REIT, which here in OZ we most probably call a Property Trust.

As with any investment strategy there are levels of risks, one has to do the legwork, get proper advice then make the final call themselves..
 
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