Hydra STIFFING me

Affilates on Consumers + Terms and Conditions...

"Fuck everybody that didn't read the T & Cs when getting rebilled for their free berry trial. I'm makin' it rain yo!"

Affiliates on Networks + Terms and Conditions...

"I don't care what the T & Cs said, I want my online monies! I'm gonna make a thread on wickedfire without the slightest trace of irony."


while true (and lollerrific)- most times affiliates aren't emailing skeptical consumers back and forth with "I know it says you're rebilled- but dude- it's REALLY FREE - trust us and disregard the t's and c's those are just technicalities" several times.

Yet networks often tell affiliates very clear with said networks' technical terms of ability to not pay affiliate if not paid "traffic is great, send as much as you can - we have a prepay" only to then re-neg on this.

This is distinctly different in my eyes and goes back to what was previously said about the near inability to make a risk assessment since an affiliate isn't seeing both sides of the situation and is thus solely relying on network communication and network reputation/confidence/history.


Some small network not paying me b/c they didn't get paid on some obscure product and it's clearly in their T's and C's and we had no communication? Hey- that's part of the game, and I'm going to extend very limited amounts of credit in terms of ramping traffic and incurring costs.

Some network not paying me after numerous proactive communications from me asking about traffic quality, how solid the relationship with the advertiser is, and conference calls initiated by them to brainstorm pay bumps and media buys to hit quotas? We're gonna have real fucking problems even though I'm well aware of the technicalities.

That's a clear slap in the face.
 


Would be nice if people refrained from flaming until they had exhausted conventional measures.

Why would you expect this? Posting a thread here takes less time and probably get's a more immediate response than exhausting all conventional measures. Not paying on time and fucking up someone's cash flow is more than enough reason to get shit on.

Here's the thing that everyone seems to be missing in the model of Advertisers > Networks > Publishers

Publishers have the customers and the customers are where the money comes from. Pissing off an affiliate over a few grand is going to cost you a fuck ton of money. At best that guy isn't going to continue sending you traffic. A worst he is going to rape your reputation.

No one makes any money if we don't send you traffic. Don't pay on-time, lose money. Don't pay at all, lose money. The worst part is, you don't know which small ass unimportant publisher is going to prevent a bunch of other potentially very large publishers from joining your network over some small amount of cash that you paid, but not on time.
 
Hydra was just acquired by Adknowledge, wonder what that's going to do to my chances of being paid.

I did $10k with them last month - they can kiss all future business goodbye.
 
Just got a call from Mason - I am going to be PAID :D

Congrats to the Adknowledge/Hydra team on the acquisition!
 
It's the lesser known advertisers that usually have to deal with prepays. The advertisers that everyone wants can call most of the shots; prepay being the first thing networks have to lose to get the offer on board.
 
stick with networks that use their own carts. If the network processes the transaction, they get guaranteed funds all the time, and errbudy get paid.

i agree though, the network should just always, always, pay their affiliates on time. their back end financial issues are their own problem - maybe be a bit more vigilant with what advertisers you let on the network, no?

i guess not everyone has that kind of cash flow - but with networks charging as much as 30% on the transaction (total and complete bullshit for what they provide, IMO) there should be significantly more buffer to pay the affiliates who are, at the end of the day, the networks' bread and butter.
 
stick with networks that use their own carts. If the network processes the transaction, they get guaranteed funds all the time, and errbudy get paid.

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Hey, just sayin'. a network i worked for once has never denied an affiliate commish, ever. They processed the transactions, so there were never merchants/advertisers running behind on bills.
 
lot of flaming on hydra but they did pay me for those leads which were put of HOLD. am not revealing the advertiser here.