I Can Make $300k + Playing Poker...Should I Give Affiliate Marketing A Shot?

ThatSwissIMGuy said:
That's one of my favorite parts about AM. I make money even when I'm NOT working. I can take a day off, come back in the evening and check how much money I made during the day. Great feeling.

That won't happen with Poker. There you actually have to put in the hours to make money and there's no point at which you can cut back hours and still make as much or more money then before.
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That definitely appeals to me. Yet, your work definitely seems to be related to your initial output, right? I read about Neil from Neilsweb getting addicted to video games and not working for a month or two and everything drying up. Also, it seems like there are a lot of posts about putting in time and work on here. For some reason that topic isn't brought up so much in poker, even though it's extremely important. Probably because forcing yourself to play can hurt your bankroll.
 


Sonny Forelli said:
Here's the one biggest thing the AM has over poker- at ANY dollar amounts.

The more experience you get, the more you stack the odds in your favor, to the point where it's just silly.

Sure in poker you have talent/experience/etc. However you also simply have statistics of what's being dealt out of a deck with fixed possibilities/probabilities.

I'd much rather have my probability continue to rise in direct proportion to my experience/talent/relationships. I may SPEND money testing, but I never LOSE money getting rivered.
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This is the thing that appeals to me most were I to try out affiliate marketing and find that it was profitable. In poker, your probability of profit would rise for every unit of skill you added to your expertise. But, it's not so direct because there is a significant luck element. Things get hazy. So if you were to live forever and play a gigantic sample of hands, it would be that way. But it is possible to just run like death. You can easily run under long term expectation for 50,000-100,000 hands. In games that are really swingy and have a lot of variance, like pot-limit omaha or heads-up...or heads-up pot-limit omaha!...this is even more true. So since it's easy to run bad, its somewhat hard to test and decipher/determine if what minute change you've added to your game is profitable or not.

That said, in certain situations, some things are clearly profitable/optimal and some things are clearly wrong.
 
mr doodles70 said:
This is the thing that appeals to me most were I to try out affiliate marketing and find that it was profitable. In poker, your probability of profit would rise for every unit of skill you added to your expertise. But, it's not so direct because there is a significant luck element. Things get hazy. So if you were to live forever and play a gigantic sample of hands, it would be that way. But it is possible to just run like death. You can easily run under long term expectation for 50,000-100,000 hands. In games that are really swingy and have a lot of variance, like pot-limit omaha or heads-up...or heads-up pot-limit omaha!...this is even more true. So since it's easy to run bad, its somewhat hard to test and decipher/determine if what minute change you've added to your game is profitable or not.

That said, in certain situations, some things are clearly profitable/optimal and some things are clearly wrong.
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yup but the bit that I don't like is the factor of 'luck' tossed in with every card peeled off the deck. Consumer/human being's behavior is predictable, it does shift, however these are trends that can be banked on from a number of angles across many verticals around the globe.

Take your poker ability to assess and deal with risk and apply it to scalable verticals and be WILLING to stick out the testing SPENDS and you're way way ahead of many people who pull things prematurely because they get cold feet OR get one thing booming and then retreat to playing Xbox all day like people who've never had to grind.

Were I you I wouldn't build a poker product, I'd figure out how to jump into niches with potential (ie don't try and fast-follow Acai at this point). Get diversified up front into 3-4 different areas and start grinding while applying strategy to how/what you're doing.
 
mr doodles70 said:
That said, in certain situations, some things are clearly profitable/optimal and some things are clearly wrong.
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like someone else said, aff marketing is probably more predictable than Poker. But be prepare to lose lots of money in the beginning. Give it a try and learn - if you think the time isnt worth it now, well then just dont do it. dude, after all you live in buenos aires and make 6 figs a day so you should prolly be able to find some time and work on this.
 
mr doodles70 said:
That definitely appeals to me. Yet, your work definitely seems to be related to your initial output, right? I read about Neil from Neilsweb getting addicted to video games and not working for a month or two and everything drying up. Also, it seems like there are a lot of posts about putting in time and work on here. For some reason that topic isn't brought up so much in poker, even though it's extremely important. Probably because forcing yourself to play can hurt your bankroll.
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Oh yes, it's definitely related to your initial and also your continuous input. What I mean is that I can take a week off, and still generate income. I can also take a month off (off meanin checking stats every other day for 5 min and stopping the stuff that doesn't work anymore) but the income will increase somewhat depending on what niche your in.

In AM you can work hard for a month, then chill and just work little for 3 months and while your income will decrease, you'll still have quite a bit (obviously not before acquiring the skills, that period is a hard and long lerning experience) of income.

In Poker, if you don't play, you don't make money.
 
If you can make $300k+ playing poker, you should just stick with that. It takes alot of time to get good at affiliate marketing - If you're willing to put in a solid year of learning about marketing, copywriting, and web design, then maybe you can do it.

It's not the most difficult thing in the world, but there are alot of things you need to learn/know how to do. Using the internet being one of them.
 
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stick with poker.
 
Fuck poker. Leave us and affiliate marketing alone stick to your main source of income this is cut out for everyone

if you make 300k from playing a game WTF ARE YOU wanting to do this for.
 
300k playing poker is nice.

Here's a thought, learn to live on 50k and invest the 250k in mutual funds in these four categories...

  • Growth
  • Growth & Income
  • Aggressive Growth
  • International
In a few years you will be shitting money.
 
jessecooper said:
300k playing poker is nice.

Here's a thought, learn to live on 50k and invest the 250k in mutual funds in these four categories...

  • Growth
  • Growth & Income
  • Aggressive Growth
  • International
In a few years you will be shitting money.
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Not only are you telling him to dump all his eggs into the stock market, but you're telling him to invest in the riskiest stocks there are.

Not quite the best investment advice I've heard lately
 
Andrew Scherer said:
Not only are you telling him to dump all his eggs into the stock market, but you're telling him to invest in the riskiest stocks there are.

Not quite the best investment advice I've heard lately
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Here's mine: live debt free

including housing. buy it, pay it off as soon as possible, buy more (with CASH).
 
Andrew Scherer said:
Not only are you telling him to dump all his eggs into the stock market, but you're telling him to invest in the riskiest stocks there are. Not quite the best investment advice I've heard lately
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What are you talking about? You should always have a small amount of your portfolio in aggressive growth stock (or more if you have a pair). Growth, growth and Income and are more conservative stocks and where most of the portfolio should be in this economy, but now is the time to be buying. Historically, stocks always rebound. So unless 2012 spells doom, he'll be shitting money if he invests properly.
 
Sonny Forelli said:
Here's mine: live debt free

including housing. buy it, pay it off as soon as possible, buy more (with CASH).
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Oh sheesh.

Please Google keyword leverage. It makes millionaires.

Roundabout said:
What are you talking about? You should always have a small amount of your portfolio in aggressive growth stock (or more if you have a pair). Growth, growth and Income and are more conservative stocks and where most of the portfolio should be in this economy, but now is the time to be buying. Historically, stocks always rebound. So unless 2012 spells doom, he'll be shitting money if he invests properly.
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I will agree with you on some of that - diversifying yourself is the best bet.

But growth stocks are anything but conservative (smaller companies growing faster than the market norm - does this even have a hint of low risk)

IMHO dropping your entire fortune solely on the stock market is completely retarded. No offense to jessecooper or anything, this is just my opinion and of course everyones investment strategies are entirely different.

What I would do with $250k right now - buy real estate.

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I'd say make a poker site, offer free short ebook on poker secrets to get their email addresses, get them to opt in if they want to continue to receive free tips, mean while your emails with free tips will include links to poker/gambling sites with specials going on ..or whatever. (<---not a gambler)
 
Andrew Scherer said:
Oh sheesh.

Please Google keyword leverage. It makes millionaires.



I will agree with you on some of that - diversifying yourself is the best bet.

But growth stocks are anything but conservative (smaller companies growing faster than the market norm - does this even have a hint of low risk)

IMHO dropping your entire fortune solely on the stock market is completely retarded. No offense to jessecooper or anything, this is just my opinion and of course everyones investment strategies are entirely different.

What I would do with $250k right now - buy real estate.

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Yeah but what exactly can you buy with $250K these days, 1-2 decent properties?
 
Im pretty sure Cardrunners and Duecescracked have affiliate programs...you could start a blog or get a list going and push those training sites. Get a feel for the market, use the info to kill when you have your own product.

Also curious, do you focus on one game, i.e. NL Holdem, PL Omaha, etc. And do you make more from cash games or tourneys? What games & limits have you found to be most profitable for you?
 
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