I Will get your website listed on 50 of the best Pr4 Directories in the internet.
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Alright I did this service. Here is my review:
PROs: Turn around time was fantastic and he did a good job of putting my website in not only great categories.. but top level ones with less OBL saturation than the more granular deeper buried areas. All of the domains look to be decently high in the pagerank factor (upon first glance)
Cons: I ran the list of 50 against a bulk IP checker.... here were the results of that test:
Domains Entered 59
Total distinct domains: 59
Unique IPs: 15
Unique Subnets: 15
Domains with Duplicate subnets: 58
Domains with Duplicate IPs: 58
so... every single one of these shares an IP with at least 2 other domain on the list and every single one shares a subnet with at least 2 on the list.
Also none of the INNER pages (ie where your link actually appears) has any pagerank at all. All PR0. Only the front pages of these directories have any pagerank.
Additionally the link profiles of these directories are fairly weak. A quick sampling of a small handful of these reveals a grand total of roughly 20-30 inbound links per domain.
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To sum up... you get what you pay for. If you need a quick burst of IP diversity this will get you 15 new IPs linking to your domain and 58 domains linking in. If you need authority its not to be had with this offering.
That said Im still fairly happy with this as I can just run a low quality link blast to the page my link appears on which will give it a little more juice to pass on to my domain i suppose. Meh. Semi-recommended. 2.5 stars out of 5.
PROs: Turn around time was fantastic and he did a good job of putting my website in not only great categories.. but top level ones with less OBL saturation than the more granular deeper buried areas. All of the domains look to be decently high in the pagerank factor (upon first glance)
Cons: I ran the list of 50 against a bulk IP checker.... here were the results of that test:
Domains Entered 59
Total distinct domains: 59
Unique IPs: 15
Unique Subnets: 15
Domains with Duplicate subnets: 58
Domains with Duplicate IPs: 58
so... every single one of these shares an IP with at least 2 other domain on the list and every single one shares a subnet with at least 2 on the list.
Also none of the INNER pages (ie where your link actually appears) has any pagerank at all. All PR0. Only the front pages of these directories have any pagerank.
Additionally the link profiles of these directories are fairly weak. A quick sampling of a small handful of these reveals a grand total of roughly 20-30 inbound links per domain.
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To sum up... you get what you pay for. If you need a quick burst of IP diversity this will get you 15 new IPs linking to your domain and 58 domains linking in. If you need authority its not to be had with this offering.
That said Im still fairly happy with this as I can just run a low quality link blast to the page my link appears on which will give it a little more juice to pass on to my domain i suppose. Meh. Semi-recommended. 2.5 stars out of 5.
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Hi and thanks apexSEORM for the review, i'd like to clarify this:
- I built those directories from scratch in 2007, and i have been doing this service for 3 years on DP and with Some leading SEO companies, so this is not a fly by night operation
- the PR Game is a quality game not quantity game, one pr7 link can make a site pr5, so i went with high pr links instead of building thousands of spammy links to those directories.
- 99% of directories don't have hidden inner pr, google does this to fight link selling, and my goal is to improve the rankings of my clients not inflate their pr anyway, and some of my inner top level categories are pr2's in many directories.
thanks again, all pending orders have been delivered, i am ready for more orders.
- I built those directories from scratch in 2007, and i have been doing this service for 3 years on DP and with Some leading SEO companies, so this is not a fly by night operation
- the PR Game is a quality game not quantity game, one pr7 link can make a site pr5, so i went with high pr links instead of building thousands of spammy links to those directories.
- 99% of directories don't have hidden inner pr, google does this to fight link selling, and my goal is to improve the rankings of my clients not inflate their pr anyway, and some of my inner top level categories are pr2's in many directories.
thanks again, all pending orders have been delivered, i am ready for more orders.
Hi and thanks apexSEORM for the review, i'd like to clarify this:
- I built those directories from scratch in 2007, and i have been doing this service for 3 years on DP and with Some leading SEO companies, so this is not a fly by night operation
- the PR Game is a quality game not quantity game, one pr7 link can make a site pr5, so i went with high pr links instead of building thousands of spammy links to those directories.
- 99% of directories don't have hidden inner pr, google does this to fight link selling, and my goal is to improve the rankings of my clients not inflate their pr anyway, and some of my inner top level categories are pr2's in many directories.
thanks again, all pending orders have been delivered, i am ready for more orders.
Le sigh... Once again I will give my little class on links and link building.
When it comes to links there are really only 6 things that matter.
Domain/page Authority/Trust
Anchor
Niche Relevance
Page Segmentation (where the link is placed on the page)
Link Diversity (links from many domains/ips worth more than many links from a single domain/ip)
And to a lesser extent - PageRank
Knowing this.. it is also important to point out that while you want elements of all these factors in your links... you don't need/have to get all of them on every single link. You can for instance get a nice high PageRank link from one source that doesnt come with a decent anchor text and is instead just yourdomain.com while gaining some relevance through in-context anchor text links on a bunch of lower PageRank pages.
Normally where web directories fit into this equation (since, as you mentioned they are pretty much ballsack for gaining PR) is ip/link diversity. Well that is of course unless most of them are on the same ip....
Now thats what directories are good for to the CLIENT. However as a web directory OWNER if you are looking to add the most value to your clients you should really be concerned with that list above as well. Sure you got a few big fat PR7 links which satisfies your PR requirements. HOWEVER PR != authority or trust. Having MANY links from a diverse cross-section of trusted and authoritative sites will usually accomplish this. What I'm trying to say is you can present a shit-load more value to your customers if your directories have a bigger link graph than 30 links.
I don't remember ever telling you to get "spammy" links. In fact I really didn't tell you to do anything... I just gave an honest review of your service. Sorry you didn't like it and had to nag me to get an OP to remove a portion of it and then still had to come back and complain about a part that had already been removed. However Im sure some here will find some value to my post.
Yes novice SEOs just think they need to submit to directories as part of their campaign... but for those who know WHY that portion is valuable (link/ip diversity) my review is likely to be helpful for them. Anyway it's your business model.. and for the price I'm still happy with the links. I just don't believe in giving incomplete information in a review. You bill your dire ctories as "the best on the web". My findings show otherwise. Thats the whole point of doing a review.
Chow.
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This. Considering I've worked with Kris for a while now, he's definitely on the right track & correct in what he said.
I ordered this also for a few sites.
First - Businessman26 is great to deal with. Gave me the information I needed and excellent communication.
Second- As apexSEORM said you get what you pay for. I knew what I was getting and at the price I think it's a good deal. Obviously you're not going to get 50 directories like botw for $65.
Overall - For the price, I'm satisfied with what I got.
First - Businessman26 is great to deal with. Gave me the information I needed and excellent communication.
Second- As apexSEORM said you get what you pay for. I knew what I was getting and at the price I think it's a good deal. Obviously you're not going to get 50 directories like botw for $65.
Overall - For the price, I'm satisfied with what I got.
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