If you like your health insurance coverage....you can keep it!

Deliguy said:
We are neither the richest nor the most powerful
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Up untill this last decade and the decline of government we were the richest nation on the face of the planet. We still are the most powerful. There isn't a millitary on earth that can face us conventionally. Both of the wars we are currently fighting would have been over in a year if the politicians and the left allowed us to actually "fight" a war.
 


Last I knew we were still easily the richest as far as GDP goes at least.


hellblazer said:
Right, I'm sure it's the insurance companies that don't want to gain an entire new client base in other states, just like I'm sure they love the frivolous lawsuits being brought against them. Your mental gyrations are becoming pathetic and desperate.
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The company gaining new clients should also have to open up their client base to a new competitor. The increased competition would lead to lower prices, which would lower the size of the overall pie of money that the industry gets.

They've been spending over a million dollars a day lobbying, are exempt from antitrust laws, have had 400 mergers and raised premiums 4 times the rate of inflation in the last decade, have been sued by doctor's groups for price fixing, etc...
 
Moxie said:
Last I knew we were still easily the richest as far as GDP goes at least.




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The company gaining new clients should also have to open up their client base to a new competitor. The increased competition would lead to lower prices, which would lower the size of the overall pie of money that the industry gets.

They've been spending over a million dollars a day lobbying, are exempt from antitrust laws, have had 400 mergers and raised premiums 4 times the rate of inflation in the last decade, have been sued by doctor's groups for price fixing, etc...
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It's not FAIR competition, that's the problem.

The left gets this warm and fuzzy feeling because "everyone will have insurance", but what they are not taking into consideration is how much fucking money it is going to cost us as tax payers.

Just like any other company they have tried to run, they will run it into the ground and we will be left to foot the bill. They will operate at huge losses and the level of care will probably suck.

Shit, they are already telling women that they don't need to be screened for this, that, and many other services that are covered currently by conventional health insurance.

The losses that are incurred will in turn result in the amount and quality of care that they give to decline at which time they will hit our fucking pockets again for more money to try and "repair" it. Then the cycle will continue.

At this point, the health insurance companies could offer a flat rate policy of $500 a year for every person that lives in the country and the left would still push forward with "reform" because they want the power.
 
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geurilla: I argue it because it's true. They can and do coexist quite nicely here because our medical market isn't nearly as screwed up as the US'.
Seriously, can you actually think of why our medical costs are so much lower here than in the US? And I',m not talking about what the individual pays after medicare subsidy or insurance copay.
My fixed medical costs are a damn sight lower than yours, and the care is just as good (arguably better IMO). I pay slightly over $1,000 out of my tax return for this wonderful public option. The same level of cover from private would be about $3,500 (and the only difference is that I get a nicer room while I'm in hospital, and can get rebates on cosmetic surgery and gym membership).

Why is that?

popeye said:
There isn't a millitary on earth that can face us conventionally.
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Of course, the problem is that wars have ceased being "conventional", and the US' over reliance on tech has shown some serious fucking flaws lately, like with the UAVs having their telemetry and observational data hacked.
The last 5-6 years have been a consistent egg-on-face for the notion of US military supremacy.
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HarveyJ said:
My fixed medical costs are a damn sight lower than yours, and the care is just as good (arguably better IMO).
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Not just your opinion, but the World Health Organisation's too. I don't care if the U.S has the most technologically advanced scanning machines or smartest doctors (please do not read that as everyone else has incompetent doctors) if none of that is accessible to my fellow countrymen then what is it worth?

(and the only difference is that I get a nicer room while I'm in hospital, and can get rebates on cosmetic surgery and gym membership).
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+ dental, elective surgery, no waiting list.
 
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