If you like your plan you can keep it, period
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Look, i could not give less of a shit. If a persons Life is more valuable than all the money in the world, good for you. If that's what you need to feel good about yourself. Have your moral high grounds. You just have to realize that someones actually going to collect on that debt. And then you're broke.
And i don't care because i have mine secured. Yea. That's responsible. Maybe it's selfish. I don't care. Your words don't matter to me. If i can buy a higher place on a donor list for my loved ones i won't hesitate a single fucking second. Go Sue me. Theres no physical manifestation of morals. It's some weird dream that only exists because you buy into its legitimacy. Like with your money. I've never claimed to be a proponent of libertarianism. It's not for everyone. People need to be told what to do. I'm free. You're not. It's all in your head. Freedom can't be granted. Nor can it be taken away.
I don't mind the day your world burns. Will be lots of fun. Popcorn.gif
Libertarianism boils down to voluntary, peaceful relationships. And in terms of society, it boils down to using peaceful means to solve problems, free of coercion. Using force, whether it be in terms of property or income redistribution is not a moral or effective solution to solving problems.
But this is all moot if you're okay with the basic premise of initiating force against others. If you are, it's not worth continuing any sort of dialogue.
In other words, "fuck you, I got mine."
You say "initiating force" I say "contributing to modern society."
Yeah... I'm done with this.
Since the early days, I have seen guerilla as having the patience of Job. Nothing in his approach over the last 6+ years has changed my perspective.
Soooo, does this lady have a porno anywhere on the internet? Theres gotta be at least one.
He's not confused. He's a hypocrite. He doesn't give his money, he wants you to give yours and if you don't, he will "authorize" someone with a gun to take it from you.
He's a regular humanitarian.
Rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble!!! Lets talk about the real issue here! a Black man working for al qaeda who are funded by the jews, who are possessed by aliens are taking away our rights!!!
Since you're willing to spend other peoples' money so freely to take care of the poor, can you liquidate your assets and send it all to my paypal please? I need it more than you.
LOL - For the majority of our species existence, there was no "economic calculation". If you think our ancestors duking it out against the Neanderthals for domination of Europe 43,000 years ago, were "calculating" to "rationally allocate resources" you are off base. They were simply trying to survive - and that meant sharing, watching each other's backs and a good dollop of altruism. The obsession with sharing, culture and clan behaviour was absent from the Neanderthal groups, and they died out (because there was no-one to help when the inevitable disasters arose).
Socialiasm is just that - sharing, thinking about fairness and altruism.
The documentary I posted wasn't about socialism - it was about primates. I thought it was especially apt because your ethos of "I will only co-operate for selfish reasons" is the Chimp philosophy - and that's the reason they're behind cages and we're not, despite their superior problem solving abilities.
A Chimp would look at the Typhoon disaster in the Philippines and think, nothing to do with me, there is no economic benefit in sharing some money with them. A human looks at it, is appalled, feelings of empathy and altruism rise to the fore, and donations are sent - we're sharing our resources. This is what we've been doing since we first evolved 170,000 years ago - and it's why the species survived so well - because we share and have each others backs.
10,000 deaths in one disaster sounds huge - but there are more deaths every day from lack of healthcare. So a shared system of healthcare is simply the same principle of helping but on an every day basis.
This minority trend of "I don't need the group, I don't need help and therefore I won't give help, I don't depend on my nation nor my clan" - it's ... interesting. A concerted effort to dehumanise us and chimpify the species instead. Perhaps there's less homo sapien in you than me!
I'm not sure you're understanding the principle. People should be free to share their resources if that's what they freely choose to do. They shouldn't be coerced into sharing resources by the government. Most humans would freely share and help others when a crisis arises (like that in the Philippines). They don't need the government to tell them that they have to share their resources.
They haven't been coerced. The government was ELECTED and Obama spent the two years before the election telling you that he was going to reform healthcare. And then people voted for him. You would have to be a moron to be surprised that he then went and did what he told you he would do!
And people had a chance to change their minds and throw him out in 2012 - and again they freely voted for him.
No coercion at all. The majority want this. And I suppose if you don't like what the majority has freely decided, you too are free to go live on some oil derrick in the Pacific (seasteading I believe they call it) where you are completely on your own, without that pesky nation bothering you. Why not, when you find groups and nations and clans and their obligations so onerous?
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