If you thought global warming was bullshit... you're right!

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This is a pretty interesting video, it was shown on channel 4 in the UK a few days ago.
I can't believe I never thought about it.

Do co2 levels affect the temperature... or does the temperature affect co2 levels?? Good ol' al Gore kindly ignored that question.

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Google Video
 


We gotta wean ourselves off oil.

It's crazy --> we finance the guys that wanna fucking kill us.

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But... I don't think Gore or Gov't is the answer. We need to empower the free market by cutting red tape, cutting taxes, and for god's sake cut the fucking oil subsidies!

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Enviromental questions are up in the air. Generally though, scientists DO believe WE are causing the planet's temperature to rise.
 
There's no definitive proof either way but the vast majority of the respected scientific community believes that we are causing some warming.

Some lame British video doesn't mean global warming is bullshit and an Al Gore movie doesn't mean it's not.
 
znine said:
There's no definitive proof either way but the vast majority of the respected scientific community believes that we are causing some warming.

Some lame British video doesn't mean global warming is bullshit and an Al Gore movie doesn't mean it's not.
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Did you watch it? Doesn't seem that lame to me.

Quadz's post was a bit crap i think, all his graphs finish at 1950, so really theyre not good enough. He was just bullshitting in my opinion, link bait n all that.
 
Mars is warming too. We've got to stop polluting that planet with all of our cows as well.
 
Assuming global warming is happening, which there seems to be a fair case there is, the problem is we could eliminate all man made pollution and it would not stop it. Forest fires, volcanic eruptions, and historical climate shifts make the human impact not statistcally significant. Al Gore likes to talk about past climate changes, but we know for fucking sure humans played no role. What are we going to do, push this one back another 100 years, if even?

The real problem is when human pollution has an environmentally changing impact. Undrinkable water (both river and groundwater pollution), poisened fish & animals, and so on. I don't fucking want to eat food with mecury or other pollutants in it and I don't believe anyone else in their right mind does either. In the US we've done a pretty good job curbing it but developing countries have huge messes on their hands.

What Al Gore and other environmentalists are doing is creating a business incentive environment for their cause. They have figured out its been big business who has single handedly standed in their way for decades. They can't beat big oil but they can bring all of these new technology companies (like Google) and entrepreneurs on board. Just read a few VC blogs, these guys are sold.

There are a lot of people standing in line to catch a ride on the environmental business boom. Whether it is built on a lie or not is irrelevent at this point, it already has the necessary momentum to move forward without being stopped.

The bright side is at least Al Gore figured out the government does a horrible job at delivering solutions and can only ensure that the enivornment exists for solutions to be created by market forces. More money for you and me, less for the lower and middle class.
 
Good points Andrew.


Even if there is nothing we can do about the earth warming up, I'd say reducing the amount of emissions we produce would do more good than harm.

It would:
1. Create a booming new business market
2. Help get us off the oil we depend on that funds the very organizations trying to kill us.
3. Cleaner air, better environment, less disease etc.
4. Maybe stop "global warming" if that is even possible on our part.

What I don't want is for the government to turn this into yet another lame excuse to pass new regulations and/or taxes that restrict more of our freedoms (patriot act, REAL ID act...ugh).
 
Global Warming has become a fucking religion for many. 1\2 a degree over a century proves nothing.

Al Gore is a has been douche who is looking for the nobel prize and adoration from his idiotic followers.

here's a global cooling article from the 70's

and here's an ABC report sound clip from the 70's

Some of you guys on this forum are really smart, don't fall for this crap.
 
dsm56 said:
This is a pretty interesting video, it was shown on channel 4 in the UK a few days ago.
I can't believe I never thought about it.

Do co2 levels affect the temperature... or does the temperature affect co2 levels?? Good ol' al Gore kindly ignored that question.

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Google Video
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Oh come on, if you watch the video at least check out Wikipedia to see the background.

Some 'scientists' in the movie have fake credentials. And one real expert (Carl Wunsch from MIT) was duped into cooperating. In his own words:

He called the film "grossly distorted" and "as close to pure propaganda as anything since World War Two."

Wunsch wrote in a letter dated March 15, 2007 that he believes climate change is "real, a major threat, and almost surely has a major human-induced component".

..Now some people may still believe that the world is flat and that it is 6000 years old, but if 99,999% of scientists agree it is not.. thats good enough for me. The same goes for Global warming.
 
Growing up in the Oceanic region, I saw news reports of shorelines dissapearing and islands getting "smaller", with some underwater. Most of this was from the mid 80's till now. Thing is many if not all of these reports would only have been available to the some of the oceanic countries where this would count as being newsworthy.

I remember going to a favourite resort in one of the Pacific countries and high tide was now bringing the water just outside the verandah. It used to be at least 20 metres away from earliest memories.
From memory, Kiribati was one nation basically going under water.
 
I think it is reasonable to assume that anthropogenic global warming is the best explanation for the data that we have as do most respected scientists. And if that isn't the case, that someone would argue in favor of pollution is mind boggling to me (as another post already mentioned). But I guess that is what happens when you try to mix politics with science.
 
It's April right now.

And it has snowed 3 days in a row.

There's your global warming.


All we have to do is get on Hydrogen. Energy problems... gone.
 
I'm all for giving the arabs and russians less money.
It's also obviously better to start using alternative renewable energy sources.

But I think its quite stupid holding back economic development for a theory, since I dont think human made global warming is more than just a theory.

I dont usually care about africans, but not letting them use their own coal and oil for their own development seems a tiny bit unfair.
 
Are there any affiliates for anti-global warming home kits? I want a piece of Al Gore's businessssss!!!!!!!!!
 
It's not global warming, it's global climate change. Weather patterns change, farmers suffer, other folks get washed or blow away. Some will get to grow grapes in Southern England :)

If you as a nation were doing OK with things as-were, might be smart to work to stop said change.

I'd rather not eat/drink/breathe pollutants. I suppose when they finally tie it in with illnessess and deformities in children, there might be an impetus to cut back on filth output. "Wuddabout de cheeeldren" seems to be the ultimate argument clincher these days.
 
I prayed to God, he said Global climate change happens all the time. No need to worry. Show me the moneyyyyy!!!!!!!
 
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