Internet Marketing Just got Worse Today (Net Neutrality Rules Approved)
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You haven't comprehended a single thing people have said in this thread, have you? Ok, let me give a comparison.
You know how via mainstream media we really get all of our news and information from a couple dozen different sources, and in reality, those sources are all owned, controlled, and/or in cohorts with each other? So really, all of our news and info only comes from a small circle-jerk of people in a boardroom, and the Western govts of the world.
Laws like this are intended to turn the internet into that same narrow streamed faucet of information. Keep going down this path, there will be four dozen websites / services that work nicely, and the rest of the internet will be shit for all users. Our internet will turn into a tiny faction of what it is today, with all of it being controlled from a few boardrooms.
This isn't something you pay $5/month to be relieved from. Does $5/month lift all the propaganda bullshit mainstream media shoves down your throat every day?
Ahhh now we're getting to the nub of it, so this is what this is all about and what's really bothering you/some?
Anyway..I have better things to give half a fuck about. /thread.
This dude said it better than I could:
^^ And how do you expect that to happen when Comcast has say a 30 year lease on the broadband lines of a community?
We're switch over to lukep's idea, and get walkie-talkie internet going?
We're switch over to lukep's idea, and get walkie-talkie internet going?
Or better yet, you have a competing product with Comcast or Time Warner, and no amount of money that you throw at them is going to make them speed up your website.
And let's not ignore the fact that there's like 24 major broadband carriers in the US and another 100+ smaller carriers. Are you going to negotiate preferential treatment with all of them?
How many websites do you own? Are you ballin' so out of control that you're prepared to pay 10s of thousands a month just so your customers can reach your sites?
And let's not ignore the fact that there's like 24 major broadband carriers in the US and another 100+ smaller carriers. Are you going to negotiate preferential treatment with all of them?
How many websites do you own? Are you ballin' so out of control that you're prepared to pay 10s of thousands a month just so your customers can reach your sites?
How can this not make you angry is really the better question?
Do you think members here are pissed off about paying the $5 (whatever it is) or more about getting put over the table and fucked. Why even post here if you think members are mad about $5 a month and it hurts our businesses that much [the payment]? Right now you are forced to not have competition in this area (ISP) and we have one more person/group dictating our actions that we didn't have before. Our businesses are based on the internet and someone literally putting a cap on usage and making you pay - for something that was free. Do you honestly not see the direction this is going in or are you in denial?
I understand what you're saying too, and I even pointed it out earlier (which I guess you missed along with many other points). Yes this is better for some businesses because it's higher barrier entry. How big is your biggest business? Probably not even close to the people this will be benefiting the most so I don't know you're pretending this is going to be a massive help for you. This is big business getting backed up by gov to control a massive source of traffic and pushing you out.
That totally stopped Google from setting up fiber in Provo, Kansas, and Austin /sarcasm
If Comcast managed to lockup a 30 year lease, then that's some awesome negotiation, haters gonna hate. If it's business viable to create competition, then competition will come. Who knows, that competition might come in the form of wireless technology we don't have yet.
Restriction breeds innovation.
Restriction breeds unnecessary struggle and time for innovation that would have come to surface much sooner and much more peacefully.
And I guess if you call death an innovation, restriction worked out wonderfully for half a million Iraqi children.
But surely this guy is trolling.
I know I'm wasting my time arguing with someone who who thinks home schooling is a good idea, but even death causes innovation and things like the printing press to be invented.
Then we have companies like Napster which paved the way to reform, and changed the worlds view on copyright forever. Napster didn't have billions of dollars to fight against the record companies, they just innovated.
Most innovation is the result of someone with the appropriate timing and resources, deciding they don't like the current system and deciding they should do something about it.
Anyone who thinks Comcast is too big to fail needs to pull their head out of their ass.
Cute, you searched through my posts..
And wait, why wouldn't home schooling be a good idea? If test scores are a measure of educational success, home school kids clearly win.
Oh and this..
^-Fixed. And what happens when you monopolize industries? You stunt technological progress. You slow the rate in which progress can be made.
If you call googling "dreamache home schooling" searching through your posts, then I guess I did. Either way, I disagree with your short sighted views on most things.
The governments role in a capitalist society is to stop unfair transactions from occurring. If local governments have decided to make monopolistic decisions about who provides broadband in their area, then they aren't doing their job as capitalist leaders.
Net neutrality is by definition the opposite of capitalism as it forces a business as to what they must provide to their customers, rather than letting customers decide by choice through competition.
Next you're going to tell me that Gmail, Yahoo and AOL should accept your spam emails, because everything in this world needs to be fair and equal. /sarcasm
Worst case scenario, we start to see datacenters or IP space sold as "carrier prioritized" and you pay an extra fee to be in it - just like you pay ESP's (Mail Chimp etc..) to get your email inboxed. As always there will be some situation where a computer (ie, your datacenter) pays the bulk pricing and then splits that off to their customers for a margin. Or you pay a service like CloudFlare to proxy your service through it's negotiated prioritized gateways.
If anything, I'm seeing some pretty cool money making opportunities coming up. A whole new angle to market webhosting, just to name one.
You mean like the ones that occur for millions of Americans every April 15th and on nearly every other purchase transaction?
Isn't it unfair for someone to intervene between a voluntary transfer of money and goods and take a percentage of it? You'd knock the fuck out someone who tried doing that to you and your friend at a bar. How is it any different when they're wearing a suit and reside in Washington?
Governments are monopolies, so to assert that they're "capitalist leaders" makes absolutely no sense.
See JakeStratham's post. tl;dr, due to government sponsored monopolies, there *is* no competition with ISP's in many areas. That's why if we're going to exist in this monopolistic environment, net neutrality acts as a bandaid.
That's great, but certainly no justification to root for something to happen that's fundamentally fucked up.
We've put into place already a law that limits utility companies from charging you an extra $10/mo rebill for "brighter lights" or using a specific more powerful brand of refrigerator in your home. The FCC is pretending that the Internet is not a utility. They're wrong.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtt2aSV8wdw]Internet Citizens: Defend Net Neutrality - YouTube[/ame]
Anyone that doesn't think this effects them *in this industry especially* needs to wake up. The ability for you to make money online has depended on fast "speed bump free" Internet for the end user.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtt2aSV8wdw]Internet Citizens: Defend Net Neutrality - YouTube[/ame]
Anyone that doesn't think this effects them *in this industry especially* needs to wake up. The ability for you to make money online has depended on fast "speed bump free" Internet for the end user.
just fyi. all governments in the world can be decentralized using bitcoin technology. instead of validating transactions, it could validate votes.
Um, in case you forgot, Napster absolutely had their ass handed to them by the record recording industry. They're nothing now.