Internet Will Become “Paid System” Within “Five Years”
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Defiantly possible, look at something like Facebook, millions of users and they don't turn a profit.
Look at YouTube, doesn't turn a profit.
I doubt something like twitter turns a profit.
Somethings got to give.
No just because those mass media sites don't turn a profit means their business model is wrong, not the fault of the internetz.
I can't understand why Youtube would suddenly offer HD if they're suffering so badly from bandwidth. These are just big dumb companies that don't know what they're doing.
As far as I know there's already plenty of sites that charge for their content.
People will always pay for quality. But I really doubt people will start to pay to read news online - this is more of a failing newspaper industry's pipedream IMO.
But hey, this is a grandpas opinion of the internet. Take it with a grain of salt.
I can't understand why Youtube would suddenly offer HD if they're suffering so badly from bandwidth. These are just big dumb companies that don't know what they're doing.
As far as I know there's already plenty of sites that charge for their content.
People will always pay for quality. But I really doubt people will start to pay to read news online - this is more of a failing newspaper industry's pipedream IMO.
But hey, this is a grandpas opinion of the internet. Take it with a grain of salt.
There will always be free websites. However, people (companies) who have quality information absolutely have the right to charge a subscription price, they always have.
It's my opinion that this paid movement will be the fall of media control as we know it. As soon as Fox, NYT, WSD, CBS ..... start charging for their biased information, the free market will take over and pwn these services, putting them out of business immediately.
It's truly a great thing for our future. As dinosaur publishers try to fit their existing business model into 21st century technology they will die off.
I heard once that the internet is the wildcard the elites never predicted, and cannot control.
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Correction: Shitty sites that don't turn a profit will attempt to implement a paid system. Users will say, "fuck you", and move on to the next free site.
Diller owns the largest sailing yacht in the world. I think his idea of what people will pay for is a bit skewed.
Diller owns the largest sailing yacht in the world. I think his idea of what people will pay for is a bit skewed.
over time bandwidth tends to get cheaper and the technology to deliver content gets more efficient (the h264 codec really impressed me when it came out) making it easier for free sites/services to operate with lower overhead... if anything we're trending towards more free content...
and yes there will always be market for certain premium content, but rampant piracy takes a huge chunk out of that market... just from my perspective having been involved in the adult industry, I can't see a paid system internet any time in the future without some kind of major sweeping change in copyright laws and vigorous enforcement... even then it would have to be a global effort, which is not bloody likely...
as for micropayments... that is already available, but most people still prefer free over paying even a small amount when given the choice between the 2...
and yes there will always be market for certain premium content, but rampant piracy takes a huge chunk out of that market... just from my perspective having been involved in the adult industry, I can't see a paid system internet any time in the future without some kind of major sweeping change in copyright laws and vigorous enforcement... even then it would have to be a global effort, which is not bloody likely...
as for micropayments... that is already available, but most people still prefer free over paying even a small amount when given the choice between the 2...
Barry's dementia must be accelerating if he thinks he can start to charge for their sites like Collegehumor...
If the "big name" sites want to start charging, that's fine by me.... people have grown up on free internet, and they're not going to go for this shit. Once the bigger sites start charging, internet users will start looking for new sites that are still free. Next thing you know, Jo Schmo's news site blows up with traffic, and advertisers start paying him like crazy for the prime spot to reach all of these viewers. Down goes the "big guy", up goes the "little guy"
That, and I don't know who they'll get to be one of the first to start charging... talk about a massive drop in traffic overnight.
That, and I don't know who they'll get to be one of the first to start charging... talk about a massive drop in traffic overnight.
Yeah, exactly. Their business model just doesn't work. Plenty of large sites turn profits.
Off Topic: I see news getting a lot more independant in the future.
NO WAI, YOU MAY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE INTERNET?
I TOLD COMCAST TO FUCK THEMSELVES; NOBODY WILL EVER PAY FOR THE INTERNET.
I GUESS I WAS WRONG.
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No, seriously, on the level: Can anyone cite a single "free" source of internet? How about one way to get online completely anonymously? [hint: it's already illegal in many places to "borrow" wifi from your neighbors]
How can a system that's completely monetized at every point in the transaction -- literally! your ISP charges for your downstream, your web hosts charge for your upstream, you pay for the domain, the traffic and the space you consume on the server -- ever fucking "BECOME" a paid system?
I TOLD COMCAST TO FUCK THEMSELVES; NOBODY WILL EVER PAY FOR THE INTERNET.
I GUESS I WAS WRONG.
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No, seriously, on the level: Can anyone cite a single "free" source of internet? How about one way to get online completely anonymously? [hint: it's already illegal in many places to "borrow" wifi from your neighbors]
How can a system that's completely monetized at every point in the transaction -- literally! your ISP charges for your downstream, your web hosts charge for your upstream, you pay for the domain, the traffic and the space you consume on the server -- ever fucking "BECOME" a paid system?
many libraries and some universities offer free internet access to the public... and as long as you're not retarded, you should be able to figure out how to stay fairly anonymous...
Yup. It's just a matter of who can get the best ROI out of whatever they are doing with their slice of it.
There will always be someone who will charge less, or try 'new' monetization schemes, or whatever, that prevents any kind of cabal from getting an iron grip and setting iron-clad pricing.
And there will always be folks who don't give a shit and steal the neighbor's wi-fi and download warez torrents. So. Life goes on.
No, that's payed internet that the library and Uni have decided to share with you, for free. They certainly pay for those pipes.
ok, I see what you're trying to say... I know the hardware and backbone isn't free and doesn't magically appear out of thin air... but my point was that as long as the price is fairly low, it will be economical for some to offer free access to the general public...
technology and the internet in particular trends towards post-scarcity... vast overabundance and dirt cheap prices equates to virtually free... for prices to increase we would need to see a devolution to increased scarcity...
The New York Times gets 20 Million visitors a month and can't turn a profit? They need to reduce operating costs and boost ad revenue. Both of which any first year MBA could handle in a couple weeks.
Sometimes I wonder if profit is even a passing thought for many of these companies...
Sometimes I wonder if profit is even a passing thought for many of these companies...
right. i agree precisely. in the future, the internet will be free. not "free", but free.
today, already there are plenty of places to get internet at-someone-elses-cost. usually, it's as an incentive of being at that place -- starbucks, university, work, etc -- and already today, many people spend much of their time in areas where they have "free" access to the internet, whether or not they use it there.
but right now, someone is still paying for it. the internet is still a paid-for service. and thus the premise, that "the internet may start to cost money" still make no sense at all.
FUD! FUD! the toobs will get clogged! we'll all have to pay! be afraid! be afraid!
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