Is college even worth it?
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Thank god for that post! I think it's pretty clear where you're coming from! You're a fucking nutcase!
^That's right, when shown the light, call the teacher a loser, asshole.
Next time don't use self portraits when insulting others visually.
Next time don't use self portraits when insulting others visually.
why do people seem to think the only way to make money online is through affiliate marketing? and that it's not sustainable? and that you can't build real assets online that can last you a long fuckin time? and what the fuck bb_wolfe -- you want to be a lawyer? WHY?
saying that you're going to 'grow up' and become a lawyer is fucking retarded. options down the road? your whole mindset is fucking garbage and it pisses me off that you're polluting this thread with it.
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Just because you have chosen to not have a life outside of your work online doesn't mean everyone is like that. You think you're all of a sudden going to be a fucking coolguy when you're a lawyer? jesus christ.
i hate this thread so much
saying that you're going to 'grow up' and become a lawyer is fucking retarded. options down the road? your whole mindset is fucking garbage and it pisses me off that you're polluting this thread with it.
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Just because you have chosen to not have a life outside of your work online doesn't mean everyone is like that. You think you're all of a sudden going to be a fucking coolguy when you're a lawyer? jesus christ.
i hate this thread so much
Those who can't do, teach? Say whaaaaaa?
No seriously, you're a moron, you won't be around in 2012, at least not outside of a McDonalds fry cooker!
Keep dreamin the dream, Lukie!
Rosetta Stone.
I picked up and retained more in 1 hour with it than I did with a total of about 12 or so semesters of Foreign Language through primary - college.
Kudos to Mgrunin again for some wise words. Seems like everyone in this thread knows how to take a step back and realize that their shit will always stink, well everyone except lukep.
I just want to drop one tidbit into this thread... for those saying "your PPC campaigns will not be around in 20 years"... LOLWUT?! If you are relying on affiliate marketing alone to make all your monies, you should go to college. Adapt into other fields that are "opposite" of what you are doing now. Be a businessman. You may have a job 20 years from now, but you won't be making as much as you may have if you opened a specific business (or INVESTMENT) and hit it big (and another tidbit, look to sell your companies. You aren't selling out, you are investing in your future).
Starting my first year next semester.
I decided to invest the monies I made with affiliate marketing into gaining knowledge and experience, rather than just getting a degree. You get what you put in, as someone mentioned above.
P.S: Perhaps it's a better idea doing it abroad though (personally I'm going to UK and I live in Eastern Europe)
I decided to invest the monies I made with affiliate marketing into gaining knowledge and experience, rather than just getting a degree. You get what you put in, as someone mentioned above.
P.S: Perhaps it's a better idea doing it abroad though (personally I'm going to UK and I live in Eastern Europe)
As a guy who earned 3 degrees (Finance undergrad, MBA, and law degree) and then never took a "job" after I was done, I can attest that most of the degree-seeking people out there are doing it just to have a "entry ticket" to a "job" working for someone else. I don't think that is necessarily good nor bad, but at least in my case, I was in school to learn the stuff for myself. If you go to school to truly educate yourself and apply it your chosen field (IM for example), I think you can leverage alot more value out of that education than you can just jumping into the same job pool as all your other wage-seeking classmates. I think you are also positioning yourself better than most IMers who don't have an educated background, you are at least starting further ahead on the curve, especially since schooling/IM are not mutually exclusive, you can do IM work while in college, the schedule is ideal.
For me, I made so much more in business for myself once i graduated that I never had to look for a job, but those degrees would have been a great insurance policy if I had slipped up or not been as fortunate as I was. I also applied much of what I learned/experienced from my education to my campaigns for better results. You can lose campaigns, have ad accounts blocked, get stiffed by a network etc, but your education can never be taken away from you, that's worth something.
Even though I didn't need any of those degrees to do most of what I do, I still wouldn't be in the same place in IM if I didn't go to school. The connections you make (many of my associates in IM I met through college connections), the ways you learn to look at problems, the experiences you have, all of them factor in to the decisions you make in IM. I don't encourage anyone to get an education "just because everyone else is doing it", but I do think investing in yourself (formal education or otherwise) is the highest payout investment you can make.
just my .02 cents.
For me, I made so much more in business for myself once i graduated that I never had to look for a job, but those degrees would have been a great insurance policy if I had slipped up or not been as fortunate as I was. I also applied much of what I learned/experienced from my education to my campaigns for better results. You can lose campaigns, have ad accounts blocked, get stiffed by a network etc, but your education can never be taken away from you, that's worth something.
Even though I didn't need any of those degrees to do most of what I do, I still wouldn't be in the same place in IM if I didn't go to school. The connections you make (many of my associates in IM I met through college connections), the ways you learn to look at problems, the experiences you have, all of them factor in to the decisions you make in IM. I don't encourage anyone to get an education "just because everyone else is doing it", but I do think investing in yourself (formal education or otherwise) is the highest payout investment you can make.
just my .02 cents.
It's worth it. You'll make long lasting friends and connections if you're smart, as well as have a back up just in case anything happens. Many people here will tell you that it's not worth it, but I would respectfully disagree. You never know what will happen to your business/money supply years from now. Hopefully it grows, but it could also decrease. With a degree you can at least get some sort of job that pays 40-60k if all goes bad.
Don't think I've seen such a gratuitous display of ignorance in a while like I see in this thread. Seriously. Time to whip out the big guns:
1. To anyone here saying because they make a ton of money in IM/AM/MFA sites whatever that they're "self-reliant" and don't have to deal with clients or rely on others, yeah bullshit. You rely on the following:
- Ad networks
- Advertisers (If not via placements then you get them direct which is? A client)
- Media buyers
- Google or other PPC networks
- Scientists and engineers that built the internet and continue to develop and expand it
- Programmers
- Other people in this internet world/community
- Much more.
Saying that you rely only on yourself is total bullshit.
2. To those saying college is a 100% waste of time, yeah maybe for you it was, but what about the people who go to be engineers, scientists, doctors, researchers, etc? The internet wouldn't exist without people who spent their lives getting PhDs and researching, working on developing materials/computing concepts/electronics/physical principles/chemicals etc that got us to this point.
Bell Labs Ph.D Physicists invented the transistor - we'd be nowhere without those now. Your CPU uses billions of them. A PhD requires 4 years of undergraduate college, then likely at LEAST 4 years of graduate (likely 5 or 6 on average).
What about the people who came up with the electrical grid, nuclear power, all these new sources of energy, etc? Chemical engineers who work with oil/natural gas?
Computer scientists who developed logic gates?
Your accountant? Your lawyer?
3. Inevitably, someone will respond to me with "Well these people are good workers, for us!". Which is equally as dumb; saying that a scientist, engineer, doctor, etc can't run a business as well is flat out ignorant. Doctors who do independent practice, engineers who start engineering firms, scientists who start private labs (Remember the guy we ALL posted in youtube videos on our ResV landers?).
I wouldn't trade my physics degree and education for anything.
1. To anyone here saying because they make a ton of money in IM/AM/MFA sites whatever that they're "self-reliant" and don't have to deal with clients or rely on others, yeah bullshit. You rely on the following:
- Ad networks
- Advertisers (If not via placements then you get them direct which is? A client)
- Media buyers
- Google or other PPC networks
- Scientists and engineers that built the internet and continue to develop and expand it
- Programmers
- Other people in this internet world/community
- Much more.
Saying that you rely only on yourself is total bullshit.
2. To those saying college is a 100% waste of time, yeah maybe for you it was, but what about the people who go to be engineers, scientists, doctors, researchers, etc? The internet wouldn't exist without people who spent their lives getting PhDs and researching, working on developing materials/computing concepts/electronics/physical principles/chemicals etc that got us to this point.
Bell Labs Ph.D Physicists invented the transistor - we'd be nowhere without those now. Your CPU uses billions of them. A PhD requires 4 years of undergraduate college, then likely at LEAST 4 years of graduate (likely 5 or 6 on average).
What about the people who came up with the electrical grid, nuclear power, all these new sources of energy, etc? Chemical engineers who work with oil/natural gas?
Computer scientists who developed logic gates?
Your accountant? Your lawyer?
3. Inevitably, someone will respond to me with "Well these people are good workers, for us!". Which is equally as dumb; saying that a scientist, engineer, doctor, etc can't run a business as well is flat out ignorant. Doctors who do independent practice, engineers who start engineering firms, scientists who start private labs (Remember the guy we ALL posted in youtube videos on our ResV landers?).
I wouldn't trade my physics degree and education for anything.