Is college even worth it?

lukep, I'm not even going to argue with you. Just read what papajohn posted and do some self reflection.

lukep said:
Following that logic, I'd be most free if I went out and got EVERY Degree offered in the world... Just in case I wanted to be a slave and use one someday.
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No, that's not what he said.

You just have a lot more options and the chances are higher with a degree, it's called the REALITY and is how the real world works.

Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates quit because they could afford to. They didn't think college was a waste of time, in fact they went for awhile.

Would you tell your kids not to go to college?
 


I wouldn't force my kids to go to college, but I'd strongly recommend they do some schooling after high school. If they decide to be lazy I'm not bailing their ass out. In fact I think trade schools are highly underrated - you can make 100k/yr as a plumber nowadays.
 
I dropped out of college twice. I'm not gonna go back because I'm just not the kind of person that can thrive in an organised learning/working environment. I was always more of an independent learner, I've been my own boss since I was 15 and I just can't function any other way.

But I'm definitely glad I went to college, and in hindsight I should probably have stuck around. It's not just about the curriculum, you really do grow as a person in that kind of environment. You get confronted with people from so many different backgrounds, and the party/work aspect and new experiences will shape you as a person. And you'll make a lot of new friends too. Damn, I miss it and I do wish I made the most out of it.

If you're <21 and haven't gone yet, go. Not just for the degree, but for everything you get out of it. It'll do ya so much good.
 
Social experience, networking, learning, all good points. The most important thing I got out of college is, I learned how to learn. Now if I need to learn something I know exactly how to package the information in a way that my brain can digest as fast as possible.

Why?

Because when you're hung over and starting a 10 page paper from scratch that's due in 2 days, you'll figure out a way. Multiply that experience times the number of weeks you're in college - your brain will adapt.
 
Obviously it's not gonna help much if you want to start/run businesses your whole life... but life is a long time.. and running businesses is stressful as fuck so who knows if you wanna be doing this shit forever.

I wouldn't go just for the social experience.. unless you have no friends to begin with. Most of my friends are in college.. so if I party with them.. it's a guarantee that they will supply the college sluts.
 
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all of my friends who went to college and got a degree either
1) have a job that has NOTHING to do with their degree(s) or master.
2) have a job that pays very little
3) still in college getting more degrees or their masters
 
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all of my friends who went to college and got a degree either
1) have a job that has NOTHING to do with their degree(s) or master.
2) have a job that pays very little
3) still in college getting more degrees or their masters
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As much as I hate threads like this, I had to respond to your post...

If they instead didn't go to college, they would...

1) Have a shittier job than the job they have now, because the job they have now probably requires a 4 year degree (even if it's unrelated to their degree)

2) Have a job that pays even less than "very little"

3) Would continue to work at mcdonalds, or end up going to college in the future because they realize their life sucks

Now that your friends have graduated and are working, have they done anything since graduation that they could have done without a degree? Did getting their degree make them delay doing something like starting a business? Or are they now making massive amounts of money from the internet or some other business venture? I'm guessing no, and even if they didn't go to college that answer would still be no.

The point is, going to college doesn't stop the entrepreneurial types from achieving their goals. If a person is determined to succeed in something, they'll do it whether they're living in a dorm room in college, or living at their parents house after deciding not to go to college, or if they're a broke ass homeless person, or any other situation. The friends you are referring to are obviously not those types of people, so for them college is absolutely a good thing. And even for those people who envision themselves being a business owner or something similar in their future, college is still a good thing.

I haven't met anyone that regrets their decision to go to college, that would be pretty rare.
 
bb_wolfe said:
Not true. People grow up. Once they realize that you can't sit in front of a PC forever pushing traffic, the opportunities in the real world require some education.

I want to become a lawyer by 2017. Rather, I will become a lawyer by 2017, no doubt about it. I skipped out on college to play with the other basement dwellers online and now am fucking shit outta luck when it comes to applying for law school. No degree.

Same applies if I wanted to be CIO of a bank, something I am more than qualified to do. Can't. No degree.

It's cool to sling leads, but it's not a long term sustainable model for people like us?

Why?

We grow up and realize that there is more to life than fucking with meme generators, whacking off to smut on 4chan, and spending countless hours babysitting campaigns that honestly, would make as much money as a 9-5 would had we just gone to fucking law school in the first place.
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Is Law School a Losing Game?



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@bb_wolfe
Put it plain and simple: I hire people with college educations. I will never* need to go to college because I've established my business and reached massive success doing it. Infact, I went to college with a double major of business / pre-med (hoping one day that I would eventually own medical firm of some time).

At this time, I started focusing on developing niche websites related to the medical field (as the CPC's were / are huge). One night I developed a serious of sites on salaries of doctors, highest paid, so on and so forth - then I realized I made more than that median range every single month (during college). I made a planned move to drop out of college and focus on my business, knowing that I could return any time I wanted to.

Good luck being a lawyer though! Did you know that they're making more law schools, accepting more students, meaning even more saturation of the market? Even after completing your what - 8 year college - you're now competing with far more people than ever before. It seems to me that being a lawyer now has even turned into a cash-cow business for colleges. Oh yea, that paired with the fact that a vast majority of lawyer jobs are getting outsourced leaves me to believe that once you complete college - you'll not only be competing with far more new lawyers, you'll be competing with Indians as well. Lifes a bitch.

I'm not trying to crush your dream my any means, infact - I plan on returning to college in my 30's to pickup a law degree myself (but not to become a lawyer, I'd like to eventually get into politics or something). I do not look down on people that complete college or go to college at all, most people realize that financially it's meaningless - but I can only imaging the sense of fulfillment one gets by completing their degree.
 
I've already completed an undergraduate program in Finance. I was just admitted to Graduate College a couple of weeks ago and I'm ecstatic to apply for the Masters in Accounting and Financial Analysis program in the coming week or two.
 
tacoX said:
I'm not trying to crush your dream my any means, infact - I plan on returning to college in my 30's to pickup a law degree myself (but not to become a lawyer, I'd like to eventually get into politics or something). I do not look down on people that complete college or go to college at all, most people realize that financially it's meaningless - but I can only imaging the sense of fulfillment one gets by completing their degree.
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politics? as in getting elected? how do you intend to do that with all the money hoes cars clothes image you've made for yourself? lol
 
I go to college for free... on iTunes U.

I've been to Stanford, Berkley, Yale and Brown, all in my car on the way to work.

I'm the smartest person I know.
 
BoYgAB90 said:
Is Law School a Losing Game?



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The last problem Wolfe will ever have is debt. I paid for the wife's masters in cash, I'll finish my bachelors with cash, and I'll go to law school paying cash!

@eagle I wouldn't vote for you if my life depended on it, I don't think you'd 'legalize it'!!

I'm going to law school to become a child advocate, not work for some corporate firm. Never the less, if a guy spends 7 years in school and doesn't network to the point he has tons of opportunity coming out, then that's his fucking problem. I've never failed to succeed in the long run and I don't plan on stopping now!
 
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bb_wolfe said:
I'm going to law school to become a child advocate, not work for some corporate firm.
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It's hard to find fault with your justification to become a child advocate, but what about the majority attending law school with the expectation of earning six figures and making partner? I think for the majority, law school is a poor investment with so many unemployed lawyers straddling massive debt. In the 1980s you could get a full legal education with about $15,000 of debt, but those days are long gone.

Here's an article that gives the POV that university is just another bubble about to pop:

Fact And Comment - Forbes.com

According to the article, the Internet is about to change everything (again).
 
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