Is there a 'best before date' for women?

LOL @ OP asking men of WickedFire for advice on women.

Bro, we are all overweight, mouth-breathing neckbeards who live in our Mom's basement whose only interaction with women come at a strip club @ ASE/ASW, on Skype, or watching YouPorn/YouJizz/XHamster/Redtube.

The only men here who have touched a woman in a sexual manner (and not been arrested for it) would be:

1. mGrunin: He's a fuckin' Russian boss who shits gold in the stock market.
2. ly2 from WF: His girlfriend Amanda is BANGIN'
3. BlokBlok: He is handsome.

That's IT. Anyone else is lying to you.
 


It depends on the woman. There are a lot of high profile women who are very career focused who may not be married in their upper twenties or thirties, but that doesn't mean that they are hideous or desperate. A lot depends on the personality of the woman you're looking at/for. A woman who is building her own career and doesn't actually need you is probably your best bet for a happy relationship. A woman whose goal is to find a man to support her and give her babies is going to be a bit off the deep end most of the time.

Interestingly, most of my peer group (I'm in my early thirties) who are marrying for the first time are marrying divorced men with children, not men fresh off the bar circuits. :)

Good with a female perspective to balance things out.

I disagree quite a lot with the bolded though. I want a woman who needs me, not to be some accessory to an ultimately selfish lifestyle. And women 'who don't need no man' is a red flag to me, cause who makes it a point to not need a man? That signals selfishness, lack of willingness to comprise and put herself second to the wellbeing of a family, which is what I think most men wants from a wife.

Depends on the career also. There's a difference between say someone pursuing an academic career or being the typical ball buster corporate drone.

The fact that your peer group is marrying divorced men with children, suggests to me that they're not getting first picks among men.
 
Good with a female perspective to balance things out.

I disagree quite a lot with the bolded though. I want a woman who needs me, not to be some accessory to an ultimately selfish lifestyle. And women 'who don't need no man' is a red flag to me, cause who makes it a point to not need a man? That signals selfishness, lack of willingness to comprise and put herself second to the wellbeing of a family, which is what I think most men wants from a wife.

Depends on the career also. There's a difference between say someone pursuing an academic career or being the typical ball buster corporate drone.

The fact that your peer group is marrying divorced men with children, suggests to me that they're not getting first picks among men.

There's actually quite a bit of research on all of this, and I agree with you on some of it.

I appreciate that men want a woman who needs them - that's a very elemental part of the male psyche, of course. Women want to be perceived as attractive and cherished. My point here is that a woman is secure in her own skin and is confident in her ability to enjoy a fulfilling life without racing from man to man for satisfaction will ultimately make the better wife - less needy, more self assured, etc.

When an independent woman gets married, it means she chooses to get married. She doesn't usually feel forced into it or like she's running out of time. There's no sense of desperation there. I'm speaking very generally of course since every woman is different.

As far as my peer group, most got married in their mid twenties. I led the pack by getting married to a man six years older than me when I was twenty-one. (I also graduated from UT and started business consulting in the same year. We bought a house the next year - not exactly a young innocent.)

Of the friends I have kept up with who were not married by around 28, there are three types - the desperate ones who married weirdos, the ones in long term relationships who finally got married, and the ones who were advanced in careers (typically engineering or finance) and who chose to marry older men.

While these may not appear to be the best of the batch, there is a long standing tradition of men not liking women who earn more than they do or who are perceived as "smarter" than they are, so these friends ultimately wound up with men who outearned them and weren't threatened by them, most of whom happen to be older and divorced.

It's a hugely faceted issue, actually, and interesting to read about from a sociology perspective.
 
I always find it amusing that anytime there is a thread started that involves love and/or women, the WF community has an overflowing abundance of advice on the subject. Good reads!
 
LOL @ OP asking men of WickedFire for advice on women.

Bro, we are all overweight, mouth-breathing neckbeards who live in our Mom's basement whose only interaction with women come at a strip club @ ASE/ASW, on Skype, or watching YouPorn/YouJizz/XHamster/Redtube.

The only men here who have touched a woman in a sexual manner (and not been arrested for it) would be:

1. mGrunin: He's a fuckin' Russian boss who shits gold in the stock market.
2. ly2 from WF: His girlfriend Amanda is BANGIN'
3. BlokBlok: He is handsome.

That's IT. Anyone else is lying to you.

Whoa what the fuck. My hair works miracles
 
I fail to see how a woman can have an "expiry date". Every women is different and age is really just a number. Life is full of twists and turns and there could be a million different reasons why a woman is or isn't married when she's approaching 30 or 40 or 50. Get to know them on a personal level instead of trying to slap some arbitrary expiry date on them and go from there.
 
LOL @ OP asking men of WickedFire for advice on women.

Bro, we are all overweight, mouth-breathing neckbeards who live in our Mom's basement whose only interaction with women come at a strip club @ ASE/ASW, on Skype, or watching YouPorn/YouJizz/XHamster/Redtube.

The only men here who have touched a woman in a sexual manner (and not been arrested for it) would be:

1. mGrunin: He's a fuckin' Russian boss who shits gold in the stock market.
2. ly2 from WF: His girlfriend Amanda is BANGIN'
3. BlokBlok: He is handsome.

That's IT. Anyone else is lying to you.

Bro, you tryin' to tell me the ladies don't find overweight, mouth-breathing neckbeards attractive? BS. Plus, my Mom's spaghetti seals the deal every time.
 
I fail to see how a woman can have an "expiry date". Every women is different and age is really just a number. Life is full of twists and turns and there could be a million different reasons why a woman is or isn't married when she's approaching 30 or 40 or 50. Get to know them on a personal level instead of trying to slap some arbitrary expiry date on them and go from there.

There is a biological expiry date though for having healthy children which is around 35.
 
Until she get's that 7 year itch and begins wondering what it would have been like to sow some oats.

You don't have data for this. And while this may not be a large enough sample, but I know five buddies of mine who married virgins. None of their wives cheat on them AFAIK. It's not a coincidence that throughout millions of human civilization, virginity has been considered as a virtue for female.
 
Did I say that? I would be extremely happy being her second or third boyfriend, I don't like extremes. From what you're saying, it seems that you feel that every woman who isn't a virgin falls into that "too many penises dipped in" category.
Whatever, each to his own.

Once she's not a virgin, you cannot really trust her numbers. Women will lie about it.
 
One of the most eligible girls I know is in her late 20s and still single (and has been for years)... she's so hot I've actually thought about moving 800km away to her city because she's hotter than anything I could date in my city. While I think that most girls that are single for a significant amount of time in their late 20s early 30s are for a reason (aka they're expired)... some girls are just focused on their careers and not too worried about it. The girl I know for example, has a super great job that requires 60h/week of her time, works with all older people, and isn't from that city so doesn't know anyone or have much of an active social life outside of work (she travels for work a lot too, which doesn't help). Other than getting hit on at the gym (which is generally a no no), I don't really know how a guy would ever get a chance to meet her / ask her out. While most girls in a situation like this would purposely meet single friends and hit the bars together, or would turn to online dating... some hot chicks that aren't worried about "expiring" are happy enough just focusing on their career until the right guy comes along.
 
Where are you going to find a 18-25 year old female virgin who isn't hideous?
Asia or the Middle East.

No offense to North America women, but chastity isn't a value in our culture. Marriage and commitment aren't values in our culture anymore either.

The irony of men getting the sluts they think they want, is that we end up with a population that has a birthrate below replacement rate, and a lot of miserable, desperate and lonely middle aged people.