I have read many methodology here offered by many sellers, including some the very reputable ones. They all seem to work. Just wonder if anyone got in trouble using any services here before. Are the services offered in the BST sections mostly considered black hat?
is WF considered black hat?
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there was a thread about this several days ago, the guy went from making $50/day to $120/day by using methods released on WF. the person never got in trouble once. http://wickedfire.com/newbie-questions/increase-your-earnings
By Matt Cutts, yes many would be considered "black hat", if you are scared to use them, you probably shouldn't. Read through this forum, use the search function and figure out what you need to figure out. Money being made round here, and it aint from being "white hat", I'll tell you that much....
money are definitely being made around the forum using whatever hats. Tho I feel like many of the money here are pretty short term business. My understanding is that Google is getting smarter and smarter and yes they will eventually catch up and be able to rank the website with actually real and quality contents over the others, at the same time eliminate the ones with blackhat techniques.
I wonder how the big stores out there go about SEO for their eCommerce site. Stores like newegg.com for example.
I wonder how the big stores out there go about SEO for their eCommerce site. Stores like newegg.com for example.
Way overstated. There is no white, only black and grey.
Setting up Google Places is an effort to "manipulate" the search engine. If doing a single directory submit or sign-up is "white", then what about doing 1000? 10,000? If one would like to introduce the idea of "good" manipulation vs. "bad" manipulation, where does the line get drawn between the two. And, more importantly, who gets to draw the line? Google? Microsoft? Haliburton? The Federal Government? The United Nations?
Jesus?
Is doing submits & signups "by hand" white hat, but using software to do it for you "black hat"? Or is it only black hat if you pay someone to do it for you?
Backlinks? If you ask someone to put in a backlink for you, there's an attempt at manipulation right there. Is one white but 10,000 black?
Right now, I'm doing a backlink analysis of a national franchise's website in San Fransisco. They have over 7000 backlinks, and I would say less than 5% are organic. All of the others have obviously been paid for. My customer is a very small business in the same industry. She has 3 backlinks.
How many backlinks can I pay for, before her site crosses the line into black hat "manipulation"? Does Warner Bros. really lose any money if I upload 60 seconds of their intellectual property to YouTube?
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One of the reasons why so many people have so much trouble with all of these issues is because they allow the major corporations to frame them. Google decides the parameters and at "street level" they make no sense. But they make sense to Google because it makes them money.
A parallel to this is the idea of intellectual property. Filesharing Lady Gaga's video is bad, but Microsoft stealing other people's intelletual property is not? The entire system is founded on corruption, and how that the most corrupt have ascended to a position of power and dominence, suddenly there is a "moral code" that all of us smaller entities are expected to adhere to.
This is why I am black hat. There is no white, and there is no spoon.
There Is No Spoon - The Matrix (5/9) Movie CLIP (1999) HD - YouTube
There's such a thin line between white hat and black hat. Is WF black hat, well, they most definitely are especially if you're talking about aggressive link building. There are a lot of great services here that's for sure.
This is like asking "Is Fire Good or Bad?" It depends on your perception.
Fire can be good for cooking your food, driving your car (engine, cylinders, etc), keeping you warm, or need to target enemies in a flame throwing scenario.
Fire can be bad if you are the cow being cooked, in a burning building, or are on the receiving end of a flam throwing scenario...
You decided.
"The Ni To Ichi Way of strategy is recorded in this the Book of the Void.
What is called the spirit of the void is where there is nothing. It is not included in man's knowledge. Of course the void is nothingness. By knowing things that exist, you can know that which does not exist. That is the void.
People in this world look at things mistakenly, and think that what they do not understand must be the void. This is not the true void. It is bewilderment.
In the Way of strategy, also, those who study as warriors think that whatever they cannot understand in their craft is the void. This is not the true void.
[…]
Then you will come to think of things in a wide sense and, taking the void as the Way, you will see the Way as void.
In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." - Miyamoto Musashi [ Book of the Void - Book of Five Rings ]
Fire can be good for cooking your food, driving your car (engine, cylinders, etc), keeping you warm, or need to target enemies in a flame throwing scenario.
Fire can be bad if you are the cow being cooked, in a burning building, or are on the receiving end of a flam throwing scenario...
You decided.
"The Ni To Ichi Way of strategy is recorded in this the Book of the Void.
What is called the spirit of the void is where there is nothing. It is not included in man's knowledge. Of course the void is nothingness. By knowing things that exist, you can know that which does not exist. That is the void.
People in this world look at things mistakenly, and think that what they do not understand must be the void. This is not the true void. It is bewilderment.
In the Way of strategy, also, those who study as warriors think that whatever they cannot understand in their craft is the void. This is not the true void.
[…]
Then you will come to think of things in a wide sense and, taking the void as the Way, you will see the Way as void.
In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." - Miyamoto Musashi [ Book of the Void - Book of Five Rings ]
Google defines all unnatural link building as Blackhat.
Google defines white hat: White hat means that you create a site and you place quality content on that site.
The only way you achieve backlinks through a white hat method is if users stumble across your website and they think that the information on the site is cool/useful/informative and are willing to repost that link elsewhere on the web. For most new website the chances of this happening on a mass scale is extremely low.
Therefore almost all webmasters engage in artifical link building in order to be able to compete in this market.
Google defines white hat: White hat means that you create a site and you place quality content on that site.
The only way you achieve backlinks through a white hat method is if users stumble across your website and they think that the information on the site is cool/useful/informative and are willing to repost that link elsewhere on the web. For most new website the chances of this happening on a mass scale is extremely low.
Therefore almost all webmasters engage in artifical link building in order to be able to compete in this market.
According to Google, any form of link building is against the webmaster guidelines. The only backlinks they deem acceptable is when people link to your site due to the virtue of your content. Of course, people always have, and will continue, to buy and sell links. The cat-and-mouse game goes on...