Islam Penalty For Apostasy

[avatar33]

You sound like a disgusting little dhimmi apologist.

Here's some real numbers as opposed to the Wikipedia propaganda you so eagerly copied and pasted.

Muslim Population In Sweden (Total Population: 9.4 million)

1998: 284,000
2011: 574,000

1998: 3.21%
2011: 6.05%

It's pretty easy to extrapolate those out. They're doubling roughly every 10 years. It's an exponential curve.

Projected Muslim Population In Sweden

2020: 12%
2030: 24%
2040: 48%
2050: 96%


"We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us.” - Swedish Democracy Minister Jens Orback.

If that happens, then Sweden is to blame.

Their immigration department should be able to "regulate" incoming traffic so that they have a well-diversified and most importantly well-educated workforce that will contribute positively to the country's economy.

Why don't we have any problems with muslims in Canada? The mayor of my city is muslim for god's sake and no one gives a flying fuck. Last I checked he didn't set up bombs in the city or use tax dollars to build mosques. Calgary is a booming city that is amongst North America's fastest growing economies.

The reason we have no problems with muslims here is because our immigration department only allows well educated people in. You go through various interviews and background checks before you're given the blue passport. If Sweden can't do the same and they allow any scumbag in, they're simply idiots and they can blame only themselves if things go sour.

 

[Moxie]

No thinking atheist, including Dawkins, will tell you that there is absolutely zero chance that a god exists. What they believe is that the chance of a god existing is so incredibly low that they consider themselves atheist.

Of course, this all presupposes that the God we are talking about is a personal intelligence such as Yahweh, Allah, Baal, Wotan, Zeus or Lord Krishna. If, by 'God', you mean love, nature, goodness, the universe, the laws of physics, the spirit of humanity, or Planck's constant, none of the above applies. An American student asked her professor whether he had a view about me. 'Sure,' he replied. 'He's positive science is incompatible with religion, but he waxes ecstatic about nature and the universe. To me, that is ¬religion!' Well, if that's what you choose to mean by religion, fine, that makes me a religious man.

Richard Dawkins: Why There Almost Certainly Is No God

I don't know much about hinduism, but he's probably ok with Buddism cause there's really no god or spirituality in it.

You must be using a strict definition for "spirituality", because many people consider Buddhism to be very spiritual.

explore faith : What does it mean to lead a spiritual life? : A Buddhist Perspective

 

[davidle]

I'm confused. What concrete objectives do you hope to achieve by arguing about something on a forum?

i think we're all hoping to enlighten one another in these types of discussions. you could say the same about any religious or political debate.

 

[amateursurgeon]

i think we're all hoping to enlighten one another in these types of discussions. you could say the same about any religious or political debate.

Ok, that makes sense. So have you ever come away from a thread like this feeling like someone who held a strong opinion has significantly changed their position?

 

[Moxie]

I don't understand how you go from Islam to Chinese. You know why Richmond? Because the name stand out and we are fucking rich. We don't rape, we buy the fuck out of your white sluts, fuck their brains out, short dick but we put a lot more effort.

3 Chinese walk down the street in suit, they gonna buy your city.

Chinese hobo on the street in western country, said no one ever.

Now fuck you.

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It's pretty easy to extrapolate those out. They're doubling roughly every 10 years. It's an exponential curve.

Projected Muslim Population In Sweden

2020: 12%
2030: 24%
2040: 48%
2050: 96%

So in 2060 it will be 192%? You don't see any potential problems with this math?

The size of a pie can grow, but the total pie remains a constant 100%. Therefore, no growth rate relative to the total pie can continue onwards to infinity.


U.S. Census Show Asians Are Fastest Growing Racial Group : The Two-Way : NPR

Amish Population Booms in US | LiveScience


Oh no, the Amish are taking over!

If Asians or the Amish were able to keep increasing their share of the pie at these rates, then they would eventually have 100% of the pie. There's no chance in hell of this happening though, because it would require all the other groups to completely stop having children.

As for Muslims in Sweden, much of the growth rate is because of immigration. In order to keep doubling the amount of Muslims, at some point they would have to start letting in a million or whatever immigrants a year, instead of 100,000. They would have to go insane with infastructure building to try to accommodate them.

 

[davidle]

Ok, that makes sense. So have you ever come away from a thread like this feeling like someone who held a strong opinion has significantly changed their position?

are you saying your position is immune to argument no matter what? are you saying people don't change their mind by way of reading? do people have to be reading a PhD Thesis in order to have their mind changed? i don't expect to change your mind, but maybe the minds of those who are sitting on the fence.

 

[hellblazer]

So in 2060 it will be 192%?

Don't be intentionally dense. It's a rough approximation to show where the trendlines are heading.

much of the growth rate is because of immigration...

It's a combination of Swedish immigration policy and fertility rates.

As for Sweden's immigration policy in the future?

Sweden sets immigration record in 2012

The Swedish government has no plans to tighten asylum policy, Integration Minister Erik Ullenhag said on Tuesday in the wake of comments by Migration Minister Tobias Billström that current immigration levels are "unsustainable".

As one of its first actions, the Social Democratic-led government that came to power in 2011 reversed some of the restrictions on immigration imposed by the former cabinet.

The immigration authorities estimate an influx of 174,500 new immigrants over the coming two years, with the largest groups coming from Somalia and Afghanistan.

You and EMP are like this dhimmi on the ground pleading for mercy, thinking he can reason with these 14th-century savages.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyHb7TN6taM"]Racism in sweden - YouTube[/ame]

 

[rusvik]

Ok, that makes sense. So have you ever come away from a thread like this feeling like someone who held a strong opinion has significantly changed their position?

For every 1 that replies 50 have read it. Rarely are the people in television debates changed by the others opinion, but those watching may change their opinion by hearing both sides.

 

[pixelo]

Nothing will be done. The trend will continue. Europe will go quietly into the night just as they are doing right now.

Sweden is #2 in the world for rape and STILL you saw with your very own eyes those Swedes in TPB:AFK protesting in protection of the rapists. The government and police intentionally hide the problem by only convicting <10% of the rapists.

Sweden is estimated to be majority Muslim by 2040 or 2050. Their laws will change along with the demographics until they are second class citizens.

And the rest of Europe will follow along as well. This talk of "something being done" or Europe erupting into "civil war" is simply foolishness.

Total bullshit...

Sweden over reports by about 100% due to their very pro-woman culture and ultra efficient public services (police/prosecutors etc), places like Zimbabwe under reports by about 1000%.


Actually yeah, that stuff on Fox is true Europe is becoming muslim. Also America is going to be majority latino soon if the demographic trends continue. Soon hamburgers will become illegal and you will be forced to eat tacos and burritos every day, 5x a day.

Also the FBI will start enforcing siestas.

 

[amateursurgeon]

are you saying your position is immune to argument no matter what? are you saying people don't change their mind by way of reading? do people have to be reading a PhD Thesis in order to have their mind changed? i don't expect to change your mind, but maybe the minds of those who are sitting on the fence.

Interesting. So if you don't expect to change my mind, why do you expect to change the minds of people who are sitting on the fence? What's the difference?

 

[Moxie]

Don't be intentionally dense. It's a rough approximation to show where the trendlines are heading.

Roughly approximating that a group can go from 48% to 96% over a 10 year period is a rather dense thing to do.

 

[pixelo]

Roughly approximating that a group can go from 48% to 96% over a 10 year period is a rather dense thing to do.

Yes that is either really stupid or more likely because these people enjoy this kind of "disaster fantasy" type of doom mongering.

Also, extrapolating out population growth by 20,30, 40+ years to suit some nightmare fictional scenario is stupid. We have no idea what demographic factors will come into play over that period of time.

 

[20figures]

Total bullshit...

Sweden over reports by about 100% due to their very pro-woman culture and ultra efficient public services (police/prosecutors etc), places like Zimbabwe under reports by about 1000%.


Actually yeah, that stuff on Fox is true Europe is becoming muslim. Also America is going to be majority latino soon if the demographic trends continue. Soon hamburgers will become illegal and you will be forced to eat tacos and burritos every day, 5x a day.

The strawman.

Also the FBI will start enforcing siestas.

Annnnnd the redirect.

Nicely done. How much are you being paid?

 

[thehobbster]

What the fuck did you just fucking say about this thread, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

I'll shoot you in the face and go inside and sleep like a baby.

 

[hellblazer]

Roughly approximating that a group can go from 48% to 96% over a 10 year period is a rather dense thing to do.

If that's the best counterpoint the dhimmi crowd can make, I'll consider my work here done.

 

[rusvik]

Yes that is either really stupid or more likely because these people enjoy this kind of "disaster fantasy" type of doom mongering.

Also, extrapolating out population growth by 20,30, 40+ years to suit some nightmare fictional scenario is stupid. We have no idea what demographic factors will come into play over that period of time.

Except the fact that we already know how muslim demographic takeover happens as in the case of Kosovo:

At 1.3% per year, ethnic Albanians in Kosovo have the fastest rate of growth in population in Europe.[164] Over an 82-year period (1921–2003) the population of Kosovo grew to 460% of its original size. Whereas Albanians constituted 60% of Kosovo's 500,000 person population in 1931, by 1991 Albanians constituted 81% of Kosovo's 2 million person population.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo#cite_note-165

 

[Moxie]

as Muslim fertility shrinks at a rate demographers have never seen before

Israel Hayom | The Westernization of Muslim demographics

The Myth Of Soaring Muslim Fertility Rates - All News Is Global

Muslim birth rate falls, population to grow more slowly | Reuters

 

[emp]

Ah, thanks Moxie... was just about to point that out.

::emp::

 

[faceblogger]

I tagged this thread with "tree jumpers" two days ago and today I found that tag was removed. I tagged again now.

Seriously, WTF!

That tag has been used here for years.

 

[davidle]

Interesting. So if you don't expect to change my mind, why do you expect to change the minds of people who are sitting on the fence? What's the difference?

do you know what "sitting on the fence" means? just because i don't expect to change your mind, doesn't mean i think it's impossible that your mind can changed.