just got the epic 4g

HustlinHard said:
irrelevant.

As of right now, I'm still waiting for the android fanboys to bring up an actual valid argument as to how it is better than the iphone 4. The only benefit at this point that I've seen is the 4G capability, which is unimportant for me since I live in an area where it isn't offered anyway.

I admit some of the android models are good phones, but the reality is that they are still lagging behind the iPhone 4, and as far as I can see, will be for a long time... You guys remind me of all the people hyping OpenOffice around the time it came out saying it was comparable, or even better, than MS Office.

No android phone has all the functionality of an iphone in one model, certain models may have some of the functions, but as far as I know, there isn't a model ATM that contains ALL of them in one package. Let's not even get into the discussion of App's, because we all know who wins in that department, and we all know who will continue to win in that department. You have to be delusional to think that Android's app marketplace will reach the size of apple's. More iPhone users = more money = more app development, end of story.

Not that it should be the deciding factor, but the iPhone also looks much better than the majority of android phones. (let's face it, looks aren't exactly a winning point for the Epic 4G)

I'm open to hearing the argument from the other side, and perhaps there is something I'm overlooking that may change my mind. (But please don't give me the whole "oh but you are always bound to the apple store, etc.." because that's what jailbreaking is for..)
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I have to agree. My Droid X hasnt been blessed with Steve Job's magical jizz, so it basically sucks.

Heres one valid argument among many-
Iphone- Stuck with the hardware
Android- Countless hardware variants for the OS, so you can choose the phone that suits your needs

You keep talking about how much more functional the Iphone is, but you havnt made any examples. I can go around and make claims like that, but I would atleast back them up.
 


No android phone has all the functionality of an iphone in one model, certain models may have some of the functions, but as far as I know, there isn't a model ATM that contains ALL of them in one package. Let's not even get into the discussion of App's, because we all know who wins in that department, and we all know who will continue to win in that department. You have to be delusional to think that Android's app marketplace will reach the size of apple's. More iPhone users = more money = more app development, end of story.
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Orly? Well a lot of these phones have features Apple doesn't have either. Check it:

Infographic: Epic 4G vs. iPhone 4 vs. Droid 2 | Skatter Tech

Notably on the side of Android we get a realistic mini usb cable for charging and syncing which is way easier and cheaper to get your hands on over Apples peice of shit. You also get a removable battery, removable media, and for the most part specs that are just as good if not better (one downer I see is screen rez).

True about how many apps Apple does have, but have you used the app store? It's like a hand full of apps in any category are good and the rest is a sea of junk and knockoffs.

Android is growing at a phenomenal rate. Back in February there where around 60,000 Android phones being shipped a day. In June they hit 160,000!

Noticeably in the second quarter Android devices accounted for 33% of devices sold: Android hits top spot in U.S. smartphone market | Wireless - CNET News

While in the 3rd quarter of the year they amassed a massive 43.6% of devices sold: Android adds to dominance of smartphone market | The Digital Home - CNET News

By 2014 Android is estimated to consume roughly 1/3 of the entire smart phone market (about twice as much as apple).

In my opinion Apple has failed to really innovate over the last generations of the iPhone, it really hasn't changed much since the 3g model.

Now how about you put up some facts not based on your Apple fanboi-ism.
 
Rage9 said:
Orly? Well a lot of these phones have features Apple doesn't have either. Check it:

Infographic: Epic 4G vs. iPhone 4 vs. Droid 2 | Skatter Tech

Notably on the side of Android we get a realistic mini usb cable for charging and syncing which is way easier and cheaper to get your hands on over Apples peice of shit. You also get a removable battery, removable media, and for the most part specs that are just as good if not better (one downer I see is screen rez).

True about how many apps Apple does have, but have you used the app store? It's like a hand full of apps in any category are good and the rest is a sea of junk and knockoffs.

Android is growing at a phenomenal rate. Back in February there where around 60,000 Android phones being shipped a day. In June they hit 160,000!

Noticeably in the second quarter Android devices accounted for 33% of devices sold: Android hits top spot in U.S. smartphone market | Wireless - CNET News

While in the 3rd quarter of the year they amassed a massive 43.6% of devices sold: Android adds to dominance of smartphone market | The Digital Home - CNET News

By 2014 Android is estimated to consume roughly 1/3 of the entire smart phone market (about twice as much as apple).

In my opinion Apple has failed to really innovate over the last generations of the iPhone, it really hasn't changed much since the 3g model.

Now how about you put up some facts not based on your Apple fanboi-ism.
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Rage9 said:
Orly? Well a lot of these phones have features Apple doesn't have either. Check it:

Infographic: Epic 4G vs. iPhone 4 vs. Droid 2 | Skatter Tech

Notably on the side of Android we get a realistic mini usb cable for charging and syncing which is way easier and cheaper to get your hands on over Apples peice of shit. You also get a removable battery, removable media, and for the most part specs that are just as good if not better (one downer I see is screen rez).

True about how many apps Apple does have, but have you used the app store? It's like a hand full of apps in any category are good and the rest is a sea of junk and knockoffs.

Android is growing at a phenomenal rate. Back in February there where around 60,000 Android phones being shipped a day. In June they hit 160,000!

Noticeably in the second quarter Android devices accounted for 33% of devices sold: Android hits top spot in U.S. smartphone market | Wireless - CNET News

While in the 3rd quarter of the year they amassed a massive 43.6% of devices sold: Android adds to dominance of smartphone market | The Digital Home - CNET News

By 2014 Android is estimated to consume roughly 1/3 of the entire smart phone market (about twice as much as apple).

In my opinion Apple has failed to really innovate over the last generations of the iPhone, it really hasn't changed much since the 3g model.

Now how about you put up some facts not based on your Apple fanboi-ism.
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Mission accomplished, I got someone to present a pretty valid argument for the android phones which I've been trying pretty hard to like. I'm far from an Apple fanboy, in fact the iPhone and iPod are the only Apple products I've ever purchased.

The functions I was referring to were:

- screen resolution
- phone size/weight
- number of apps - and the fact that most newly developed apps are created first for the iPhone, I've yet to see a significant app that is available on the Android but not on the iPhone, because the opposite definitely exists.
- build quality - I've heard the build quality of some of the android phones has been cheap, maybe someone can confirm/deny this
- Physical look of the phone - this is of course personal preference, but I like my phone to look nice and sleek. The iPhone definitely does, while most of the androids I've seen look almost as bad as the *cellphone* Zack Morris used to sport

Also some of the missing functions of the iphone mentioned in that article you posted, such as turn-by-turn navigation, are available through apps and/or jailbreaking.

The biggest drawback of the iPhone would probably be the lack of Flash, which I've heard is in the works and the lack of a physical keyboard, which is not really something I care about either, plus I feel it adds too much bulk to the phone anyway.

I guess if you can get over the points I mentioned, the androids have their merits, but to me it still feels like they're playing catch-up in terms of usability and build quality, whereas I've had no problems with my iphone and know that if any do arise, I'll be taken care of by Apple *no fanboy*. To the contrary, I've had a Samsung Jack in the past that felt like two pieces of plastic glued together. That thing was a total piece of shit and ended up breaking on me out of nowhere.
 
This article for me sums up, Why Apple will eventually lose the fight. Also love the quote from Mitch Kapor, which sums up the business from a strategic view point

"Having a tightly controlled ecosystem, which is what Apple has, is a large short-term advantage and a large long-term disadvantage,” said Mitchell Kapor

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/18/technology/18apple.html
 
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