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i've always wondered though - these guys at FWM ship the shit out, but who actually puts the powder in the pill and seals it?
 
John Lawless the guy in the video, represents a good target demographic

"my wife thought it would help with the weight
we're open to trying things. nutritional suppliments. things like that"
 
I live right around the corner from, and work for one of the partners....I can tell you he has made a mint. There have been 3 of these things on different networks I have seen and it does not effect the industry..sales are up.
 
newjersey said:
John Lawless the guy in the video, represents a good target demographic

"my wife thought it would help with the weight
we're open to trying things. nutritional suppliments. things like that"
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his wife... who was, by the way, never on camera.

i say she weighs at least 350
 
LotsOfZeros said:
Contract manufacturers all over the place will create, bottle and private label anything you want.
Pharmaceutical Online:Sourcing for Pharmaceutical Manufacturing, Pharmaceutical Contract Manufacturing

From what I have heard from industry insiders, the cost is literally a few bucks per unit or lower.

Yeah, they're banking.
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Just to clarify that, if you want to sell this stuff you would need to buy several cases at a time to get the best prices....but yeah when they are charging $90 per bottle and paying $40 to CPA they're still walking away with $35 or so in profit per sale - I am factoring in returns, cancellations and overhead.
 
Doldgigga: And you're still not talking about all the costs there. There's also the call center (supposedly), administration costs, paying their own staff, etc.
So whilst they're still walking away with $35 a bottle, the true ARO is probably closer to $7-$8... which is still a metric fuck tonne, as they're likely pushing a couple thousand a day.

papajohn56 said:
i've always wondered though - these guys at FWM ship the shit out, but who actually puts the powder in the pill and seals it?
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pharmaceutical, pharmaceutical Manufacturers & Suppliers
 
Anyone at all interested in learning more about how "the other side" works should check out CPA Tsunami by Mike Hill.

Dude is slightly crazy but knows his shit. He must have like four hours of seminar shit that is actually worth watching in his member's area. Just sign up with a fake e-mail to get access if you really don't wanna be "marketed" too. :)

You'll see though that breaking even is really your goal on the inital bottle. You make the real money on upsells and continuity programs. (Check out his Value Trojan idea.)

Something not enough people are talking about is having a squeeze page and putting it on a CPA network.

You won't make a fuck load but you get gaurenteed 1 dollar opt-ins assuming that's your payout. (How legit some are is another question.)

But still a pretty untapped market IMO.

Eric
 
HarveyJ said:
Doldgigga: And you're still not talking about all the costs there. There's also the call center (supposedly), administration costs, paying their own staff, etc.
So whilst they're still walking away with $35 a bottle, the true ARO is probably closer to $7-$8... which is still a metric fuck tonne, as they're likely pushing a couple thousand a day.
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Would be interesting to break down the costs. People often look at basic number make associations like "Oh they charge $90 per bottle and sell 100 or more each day." But in reality they are probably paying 5% or more to process each charge (high risk merchant), they pay almost 1/2 of that $90 to a CPA network, their chargeback/return rate is probably over 3% which is high for any company dealing with physical products. Each order has shipping charges associated, plus the wages paid to the employees. Call center expenses are a possibility at well, but with VoIP it's not as expensive as it was before to have a bank of operators set up.

I used to do Direct Response TV marketing and if done correctly you can minimize your REAL CPO and make some nice $$$...hate me for saying it, but keeping your customers happy can determine the long-term viability of your company and most companies don't give a shit. I've seen a lot of companies take the pump-n-dump approach (remember Ginsu Knives?) where they milk a product till it's shit, then fold up shop and relaunch under a new name. Some companies will sacrifice that initial jolt of huge profits in exchange for a more gradual income over time but it's not the popular choice in the industry. Either way could work...so I suppose it boils down to the personal preferences of the people(s) behind the product.
 
Forgot to add previously that there are some fullfilment houses that have call centers built in.

So it's like a one stop and shop.

Forget the name but it's located in Denver.

@DoldGigga No shit you aren't making 100% profit of off every bottle. That's why a lot of RFT's are doing 1000+ bottles a day and making a shit load off the back end continuity programs and 'membership' areas.

Hint: Membership areas that cost 5 bucks a month add up when you have thousands of new leads coming in daily. And since it's only 5 bucks no one cancels for awhile.

The profits don't stop when the offer dies off. That's when you continue to monetize and/or sell of the valuable leads you already have. (Imagine having the mailing address' to tens of thousands of people who've boughten Acai products etc. Huge potential.)

Eric
 
A bottle of Acai if bought in bulk cost about $2.25 and less than that if you do in-house manufacturing. The shipping and handle fee that the consumer pays usually covers the shipping and manufacturing fees.
 
DoldGigga said:
Would be interesting to break down the costs. People often look at basic number make associations like "Oh they charge $90 per bottle and sell 100 or more each day." But in reality they are probably paying 5% or more to process each charge (high risk merchant), they pay almost 1/2 of that $90 to a CPA network, their chargeback/return rate is probably over 3% which is high for any company dealing with physical products. Each order has shipping charges associated, plus the wages paid to the employees. Call center expenses are a possibility at well, but with VoIP it's not as expensive as it was before to have a bank of operators set up.
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That's not true, although you get raped at rates often higher than 5% for high risk merchanting, it's all about volume. the chargebacks/complaints are miniminal compared to the amount of successful rebills.

I worked for a company that did the back-end of grant offers through a number of networks, at the peak they were averaging 2,000+ a day for months and doing 8,000 sign-ups a day at their peak. You could expect 3-4 months of rebill per user. They setup a call center and focused on taking those calls and minimizing chargebacks. Last year they did over $62mil in revenue and about 35% of that was overhead on CPAs/infrastructure/fulfillment. This year I'm sure they'll clear double or triple that.

Quite the biz...
 
kidChaos said:
That's not true, although you get raped at rates often higher than 5% for high risk merchanting, it's all about volume. the chargebacks/complaints are miniminal compared to the amount of successful rebills.

I worked for a company that did the back-end of grant offers through a number of networks, at the peak they were averaging 2,000+ a day for months and doing 8,000 sign-ups a day at their peak. You could expect 3-4 months of rebill per user. They setup a call center and focused on taking those calls and minimizing chargebacks. Last year they did over $62mil in revenue and about 35% of that was overhead on CPAs/infrastructure/fulfillment. This year I'm sure they'll clear double or triple that.

Quite the biz...
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why are you not working with them anymore? Where were they located Florida?
 
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