kevin o leary says 3.5 billion living in poverty is fantastic

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rMPea0lm9U

folks, the fact that this video has a high dislike to like ratio is great news. those are the same people who get all emotional while reading your landing page and buy your stupid berries, or if you're all ethical and girly like me, a product.

edit: fuck it. how do you embed? :p
 


chick is dumb jealous loser. If he wants to help all those people then she can give them her paycheck.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rMPea0lm9U]Kevin O'Leary on global inequality: "It's fantastic!" - YouTube[/ame]
 
O'Leary is awesome I love this guy, actually met him once at a tradeshow, really smart and driven.

So I have this argument all the time with my wife who believes that opportunity is not equal, that growing up in the ghetto in New York having to raise your brothers and sisters because their parents are crack whores will never have the chance to be great.

I say fuck that, just as O'Leary says that's great news, the point I make is that when there is a will there is a way and that's it, I don't care where you're from or who you are, if you are driven and have a vision you will succeed no matter how fucked up your situation, I have met many individuals who made it from nothing, many of them where considered to be dead before 30.

Great news story.
 
She just needs to take it from 23 men.

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gbmack said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rMPea0lm9U

folks, the fact that this video has a high dislike to like ratio is great news. those are the same people who get all emotional while reading your landing page and buy your stupid berries, or if you're all ethical and girly like me, a product.

edit: fuck it. how do you embed? :p
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Just take the s out of the https:// and it will embed..
 
I honestly cannot believe how such a large percentage of people can't look at this type of thing logically. O'Leary is telling this woman to her face that she has the opportunity to be one of the 1%, and she's too busy yapping about people who don't have socks, while she's sitting there surrounded by billions of dollars of technology, pretending to be suffering financially. Inequality is opportunity. Anything else is going to involve the theft of labor, money, health, and assets. All the while O'Leary is talking about being charitable with the money. Jeebus.
 
I agree that people who work harder than others or take a bigger risk should have more money but to say that it is fantastic that there are 3.5 b people living in poverty is just dumb. That's how the world works but what is "fantastic" about this?
 
coldcallking said:
O'Leary is awesome I love this guy, actually met him once at a tradeshow, really smart and driven.

So I have this argument all the time with my wife who believes that opportunity is not equal, that growing up in the ghetto in New York having to raise your brothers and sisters because their parents are crack whores will never have the chance to be great.

I say fuck that, just as O'Leary says that's great news, the point I make is that when there is a will there is a way and that's it, I don't care where you're from or who you are, if you are driven and have a vision you will succeed no matter how fucked up your situation, I have met many individuals who made it from nothing, many of them where considered to be dead before 30.

Great news story.
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Someone born in Africa has a much lower chance of being successful than someone born into a wealthy American family. If you don't have an education, the internet, or even know opportunity exists beyond a tiny remote village in Africa you grow up in, then you're not going to be successful.

Perfect example: being born in North Korea. You don't know anything outside of your own country and its ridiculous regime. You can work hard all you want, you'll never be successful, or even necessarily know that there's an alternative to the life you live available.

Lots of social factors go into whether someone can be successful or not beyond their innate "drive". People that refute that are ignorant bigots. People like O'Leary speak this way because they want to believe that what they've done is unique, that they're immensely hard working and that they achieved what they did through nothing but hard work and determination. They don't want to admit to themselves that they had some lucky breaks (one: being born in Canada, two: a mother who gave him $10k to start his software company, etc etc).

Hard work and determination are important for success in business in most instances, but social factors will determine whether you are in a position to apply yourself effectively in the first place. The poor people who get rich are exceptions rather than the norm, and not just because they don't have drive.
 
capone2009 said:
I agree that people who work harder than others or take a bigger risk should have more money but to say that it is fantastic that there are 3.5 b people living in poverty is just dumb. That's how the world works but what is "fantastic" about this?
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He was being purposefully obtuse to rustle jimmies. It's his "character."

What's fantastic is that the people you've described, those who are willing to work harder, longer, smarter, and manage risk, and provide great value to the world can be rewarded for it. Having this inequality means there are things to aspire to and for.

If we redistributed wealth like all these idiots are saying, what we'd have is a 1% who controlled the redistribution living like super-kings, with everyone else in poverty (but an equal poverty!) not educating themselves, with no motivations, no goals, just transforming into a species of super-sloth potatoes.

And I think that's the reality of this whole argument. It's got nothing to do with suffering. It has to do with the idea that someone is more successful. That what they do and work for provides more value. That sitting around playing the Xbox all day isn't rewarded with millions of dollars.

It's crabs in a bucket. Seeing someone successful and then literally proposing that we steal their money that they earned and give it to someone who hasn't earned it is a way of saying...

"Fuck that. I'm not going to work that hard. Money doesn't mean EVERYTHING. And look how he wastes it. I'd spend it better! I'd blah blah, and I'd also blah blah"

It's a mutually exclusive dream. When they say they want socialism, they are saying:

"I want to be super fucking filthy rich too, I just don't want to work for it. I know that redistributing wealth means nobody is super fucking filthy rich, but that's okay. I'd rather NOBODY be rich than me not be rich."

Of course, I'm just talking within the confines of the first world. The 1% do so much charity work and share and help the third world and a lot of times don't get recognized for it. The Clinton Global Initiative, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, etc. These guys are in the trenches, but we are willing to crucify them because they aren't redistributing the wealth in the way we want them to. "Don't save lives, just give us cash!"
 
mituozo said:
Perfect example: being born in North Korea. You don't know anything outside of your own country and its ridiculous regime. You can work hard all you want, you'll never be successful, or even necessarily know that there's an alternative to the life you live available.
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Unless you've been there and conversed with a few North Koreans to gain a true understanding of what they do and don't know, you're talking out of your ass. Stop discounting people based on your low perceptions of them.

We didn't get where we are today because a bunch of people sat around and cried about those with lesser means, nor did we get here because of massive wealth redistributions from the successful to the lazy. The reality is quite the opposite; easily obtainable facts show that for millenia wealth (the fruits of productivity: valued resources) was forcibly de-distributed or centralized into the hands of whomever had the strongest military.

And yet, somehow... here we are, with all our fancy technology and accomplishments. Amazing.
 
mituozo said:
Someone born in Africa has a much lower chance of being successful than someone born into a wealthy American family. If you don't have an education, the internet, or even know opportunity exists beyond a tiny remote village in Africa you grow up in, then you're not going to be successful.

Perfect example: being born in North Korea. You don't know anything outside of your own country and its ridiculous regime. You can work hard all you want, you'll never be successful, or even necessarily know that there's an alternative to the life you live available.

Lots of social factors go into whether someone can be successful or not beyond their innate "drive". People that refute that are ignorant bigots. People like O'Leary speak this way because they want to believe that what they've done is unique, that they're immensely hard working and that they achieved what they did through nothing but hard work and determination. They don't want to admit to themselves that they had some lucky breaks (one: being born in Canada, two: a mother who gave him $10k to start his software company, etc etc).

Hard work and determination are important for success in business in most instances, but social factors will determine whether you are in a position to apply yourself effectively in the first place. The poor people who get rich are exceptions rather than the norm, and not just because they don't have drive.
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Things that you mention do make sense and you definitely have a point, however I think that even if you're born in a "wrong" country and you have everything against you, there is STILL a way out of it.

It's NOT easy, but surely it's not impossible. Can't talk from my own experience, but I'm pretty sure they are thousands of people from unbelievable backgrounds who went through all kinds of shit and now they are that 1%.

Becoming successful and wealthy is NOT the norm, it's always an exception, no matter where you live and what you do.

People in developed countries definitely have more opportunities and resources around them compared to those who have access to practically nothing, but it doesn't necessarily mean they have a higher chance of achieving their goals, because obviously it's all about what you do with those resources.

Take India as an example - while it's one of the poorest countries in the world, yet some of the richest people are Indians.

I keep re-posting this video, but I think if anyone can answer that question honestly, then you'll be whoever you want to be in life:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i3g-RvC-iA]How Bad do you want it? - YouTube[/ame]
 
SEOKebab said:
Things that you mention do make sense and you definitely have a point, however I think that even if you're born in a "wrong" country and you have everything against you, there is STILL a way out of it.

It's NOT easy, but surely it's not impossible. Can't talk from my own experience, but I'm pretty sure they are thousands of people from unbelievable backgrounds who went through all kinds of shit and now they are that 1%.
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My wife was born in southeast asia with 6 siblings and a family income of around $100/month, she worked her way to a 6 figure job in the USA before age 30.

I was born to two poor high school seniors in a rural MN trailer home, now I live lakefront near fortune 500 CEO's and pro athletes.
 
Gief_Repz_plz said:
I'm genuinely curious; let's say you're some poor kid in Africa, how would you rise out of poverty?
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Dig a fucking well. Build mud houses. Farm with water from your well. Breed goats. Trade your legacy in. Migrate out of the wasteland that should not occupied in the first place. Sell books about how you "made it" to retarded americans. Start a charity to help "your kind" pay yourself 1mm/year to run the charity. Laugh at retards still back there cooking themselves in your old wasteland home.

I guess just one scenario..
 
Oh, we're talking about people again.

Most people are stupid. The ones who are succesful are having a different type of mindset.

They don't choose to watch TV, they choose to read a book to gather specific knowdlege.
They choose to not be hyprocrites about the power of money.
They don't rely on lottery or bitcoins investment, instead they know everything depends about them.
They don't blame Matt Cutts for changing the algo, instead they work for hours to find the formula then they thank Matt Cutts for being so easy to beat.
Most people live their lives by all kind of stereoptypes or cultures (you need a degree to be successful)
Most people are pussies.

And you know, EVERYTHING of these are based on fear. It takes some courage to put the world work for you.

Look at that bitch, she is so fucking jealous but still would fuck with o'leary for some money.
 
tangy said:
Unless you've been there and conversed with a few North Koreans to gain a true understanding of what they do and don't know, you're talking out of your ass. Stop discounting people based on your low perceptions of them.

We didn't get where we are today because a bunch of people sat around and cried about those with lesser means, nor did we get here because of massive wealth redistributions from the successful to the lazy. The reality is quite the opposite; easily obtainable facts show that for millenia wealth (the fruits of productivity: valued resources) was forcibly de-distributed or centralized into the hands of whomever had the strongest military.

And yet, somehow... here we are, with all our fancy technology and accomplishments. Amazing.
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Firstly, I'm not speaking lowly of North Koreans. I'm saying that the social environment they're brought up in limits their potential, rather than their willingness to work. Your entire perception of the world is based on what people tell you, your ability to experiment and the information you have access to.

I'm not arguing for wealth re-distribution, either. I'm saying that O'Leary has a very narrow view of the world. There are faults to capitalism. It's not some perfect system where people that work hard & smart rise to the top, and people that don't fall to the bottom.

There are social factors that determine and restrict whether you can ever be successful. It's easy for someone born in the first world without the perspective of growing up impoverished in a country without resource to say that working hard will allow them to rise to the top, but it's not true.

It's also easy for poor people who've climbed to wealth to say they worked hard and turned everything around, again not taking into account the luck in their lives, that some people in remote, disconnected countries never have. If you're born penniless in America, you still have some degree of freedom. You can get internet access. Get a free education. Read books.

If you can't read or write, or have access to information or education, how do you ever communicate, or learn what's going on outside the confounds of your small village? Do you chance it and take a 200 mile journey on foot to escape to some place that you don't even know exists, or even know is better than where you are? How do you know that it's some bacteria killing all your crops? You work hundred hour weeks on your fields, but they just die. You can work hard doing whatever you want, but success isn't going to come without strokes of luck.

The view that all people that work hard will see success eventually is fundamentally wrong. I'm not suggesting that because of that we should be redistributing resource, just that opportunity isn't equal. Those 2.5 billion people O'Leary talks about can't "look up" to the 85 billionaires, because most of them don't know they exist, or so much as understand the world that they live in.
 
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