Kids Lemonade Stand Fined $500 And Shut Down By County

TigerUK said:
Ok the safety issue wasn't thought out, there's probably some saftey issue with selling home made food and beverages in some bureaucratic refulation somewhere, probably real chance of health is probably next to zero.

but, the law is the law, just because they're kids doesn't mean the law is waived for them. Also you quoted me on the statement

What if 3 black men were selling lemonade without permits, will you feel differently then?

But you didn't answer it, if it was 3 black men selling lemondae on their front laws, nobody would give a damn.

In order for law to be just and fair it has to apply for everyone.

Also, In most countries you cannot turn your home into business property by the way, you have to pay business rates.
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Dude, let it go.
 


next law - 10 year old kids gotta get $500 permits before they can trade pokemon cards with their friends
 
Back in my day, when I went to university, if you were the treasurer of your "society" (Every discipline had a formal society with ties to student council), you were responsible for getting beer for the society parties.

So you would phone up a beer rep to get some free cases, in return for cheap sponsorship.

Win-win, baby.

Then the province of Ontario made it illegal to give away beer for free. I completely shit you not on this. As it was corrupting the morals of university students or something like that.

Right-wingers are made, not born.

There I was, 20 years old, planning clandestine meetings with Molson/Labatt beer reps to score free illegal cases of beer. Jeepers.
 
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Here's a dirty little secret for those who are still drinking the state lemonade:

Licenses, permits, and state approval offer virtually no protection or assurance of quality. One example of hundreds: the FDA.

Anyone ever study the FDA's track record? Ever wonder why drugs are black-boxed decades after the FDA essentially says, "Cool drug, big pharma. You're good to go. Start selling it." Ever taken a close look at the FDA's 510k premarket notification approval process for medical devices? Do you know how manufacturers circumvent testing of their devices? Have you followed recall rates?

And here's the rub: Consumers (voters) still think they're being protected by the FDA. lol And they praise the government for their hard work.

The same is true for DEA, DHS, TSA, etc.

Voters are funny, but they're also scary. They're ignorant regarding the long-term consequences of their actions. They put people in power who restrict us, bankrupt us, and up until a few decades ago, force us to go die in foreign lands.

And yet we continue to vote. Some of you do, at least.


Somebody is likely thinking, "dude, you know we don't vote for the FDA, right?" Yes, just like we don't "vote" for DEA, DHS, TSA, FED, Treasury, etc.
 
TigerUK said:
What if 3 black men were selling lemonade without permits, will you feel differently then?
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I wouldn't buy from them even if they had permits. Permits don't mean legitimacy and lack of permits don't mean illegitimacy. The product is what matters. You could put a permit on a piece of shit and I'm still not going to buy it. What I am talking about is freedom. Most people don't understand it because they haven't studied what America is supposed to be all about. The freedom to fail is just as important as the freedom to succeed in America. That is what made it the best.

Is it discrimination to buy from 3 white kids as opposed to 3 black men? You're damn right it is. Why does that have any bearing on anything? Is it discrimination for a hot woman to have an advantage in life as opposed to an ugly woman? Yeah, so. Life is easier for some people and harder for others. So what. Grow up and deal with it. If it is harder for 3 black people to sell lemonade then maybe they should do something that 3 kids can't do. That's how a free market works. It's called relevancy. It's called supply and demand. If people choose not to buy from 3 black people then deal with it. Figure out a way to get people to buy from you or do something else. That's how freedom works.
 
Opening a lemonade stand is really about teaching little kids about business. It used to be a simple affair with a wobbly table, a hand-scratched sign and a pitcher of 10 cent Kool-Aid for sale at a 250% markup.

Now when kids try to open an informal business, the suits get involved and slap fines on the budding entrepreneurs. The story goes that there are permits to pay for and hygiene standards to meet if you want to go into the business of selling soft drinks to the public. They learned a thing or two about being a bold upstart trying to compete in the same space as their stronger competition and getting whacked for it.

Then the story gets picked up by the local press. It goes viral on the Internet where experienced business owners grouse about what happened to the lemonade sellers, and say they relate.

I think those kids learned a thing or two about business that day.
 
BlueYonder said:
Opening a lemonade stand is really about teaching little kids about business. It used to be a simple affair with a wobbly table, a hand-scratched sign and a pitcher of 10 cent Kool-Aid for sale at a 250% markup.

Now when kids try to open an informal business, the suits get involved and slap fines on the budding entrepreneurs. The story goes that there are permits to pay for and hygiene standards to meet if you want to go into the business of selling soft drinks to the public. They learned a thing or two about being a bold upstart trying to compete in the same space as their stronger competition and getting whacked for it.

Then the story gets picked up by the local press. It goes viral on the Internet where experienced business owners grouse about what happened to the lemonade sellers, and say they relate.

I think those kids learned a thing or two about business that day.
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I guarantee you a bunch of 10 year old kids didn't learn shit about business from having their lemonade stand shut down. The only thing they learned is to try not to get caught next time.
 
AuthorAji said:
I have a lot of friends/acquaintances from countries like United States, Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom come down often and I don't remember anyone falling sick or acquiring any kind of diseases when here. (Except for once when a friend from Austria couldn't digest the spicy Paneer Tikka we had in Goa)
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I'm sure that's true, but, the one close friend I have that has traveled to India for business (just last year) became incredibly sick and couldn't leave his hotel for like 3 days. And, the physician they sent up to see him refused to leave unless my buddy promised that he would meet with his son about the possibility of employment. Lol.
 
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@TigerUK - excuse me, but WTF are you doing on an affiliate marketing forum?

Haven't you got a banana-straightening job with an EU-subcommittee to go to?


Seriously, if I worried about what fucking permits and rules and regulations I was or wasn't complying with, I'd never get anything done.

I'm assuming you're from the UK? If so, I'm quite frankly ashamed to live in the same country as someone who holds that opinion.

People obsessing over rules and risks is precisely the reason the state of entrepreneurship in the UK is totally fucked, and we as a country are reliant on public sector jobs and big corporates run by psychopathic crooks.

Who do you think these rules and regulations are there to protect? The public? If so you're having a fucking laugh.

The reason they are there is to protect the vested interests of the state and large businesses who don't want any competition from startups of any kind. Big companies can afford to have departments full time to deal with this compliance shit, and the lobbying power to change it when it doesn't suit them.

Small guys can't. Council makes a nice living from fines and admin charges.

If you believe otherwise, you're either hopelessly naive, or a troll.

Here's what I bet really happened:

1. US Open venue calls up head of Montgomery council.

"Hi there, councillor? We've got a problem. There are kids outside selling lemonade for $1 a go. People are drinking it, then they aren't buying as much inside the grounds because ours is $10 a go. You know that premium box with hospitality thrown in that you and your wives are enjoying at the weekend? Well, if we see any more lemonade, you can forget it."

2. Councillor makes sure there is no more lemonade by giving kids huge fine.
 
is it just me or did it seem like the parents were wanting to run a legit scaled beverage stand outside of the US open and were just using the kids as a scapegoat to do it illegally and get away with it?

inspectors usually don't go looking for them. She said this one was unusually large.
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"Cute little kids making five or ten dollars is a little bit different than making hundreds. You've got coolers and coolers here," the inspector responded.
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Hughes also says they've warned all kinds of other vendors they couldn't operate near the US Open because of concerns about traffic and safety.
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Then the parents expand out the nonsense to try to pretend like its some random kids opening a lemonade stand in their neighborhood
But that did little to console Carrie Marriott. "Does every kid who sells lemonade now have to register with the county?" she asked the inspector.
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They were clearly using their kids to get away with something.
 
UPDATE 1:00 p.m. 6/17/11: Montgomery county officials have allowed the children to reopen their lemonade stand, as long as it operates in another location.

The county permits director Jennifer Harris says the children simply need to move their stand from the "main strip," to a more private, safer area. The $500 fine was also waived.
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Now quit your fucking crying already
 
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