Kim Dotcom - Fat Cunt or Genius?

Fat Cunt or Genius

  • Fat Cunt

    Votes: 32 47.1%

  • Genius

    Votes: 52 76.5%
  • Total voters
    68


lukep said:
Which will be the case as soon as their movies and songs just aren't profitable anymore.
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.. under their current business model. The common man doesn't use file sharing for movies, they use netflix, redbox or their local theater. Hollywood going belly up is just another lie.

Trent Reznor seems like he's doing quite well giving all his shit away for free.

Also, I'd willingly subscribe to individual show stream as many other fans would. There is no price too high for me to see the civil war that Jericho promised .... or season 2-20 of Serenity.
 
Doesn't matter.

Intellectual Property "Rights" create artificial scarcity, enforced by the state.
 
DVD sales down, but overall spending went up last year.


"a sharp increase in revenue from the subscription streaming of movies and shows"

Streaming Lifts Home Entertainment Spending - NYTimes.com


People also said that downloadable music was going to kill music sales, but here we are a few years later and billions of songs have been purchased from just Itunes.
 
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robbie222 said:
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One thing that graph doesn't take into account is the cost of CD sales. I'd imagine that producing millions of cds isn't cheap when you have to make a copy, print the cover, print on the cd, print the booklet, put it all in a case, slap retail/advisory stickers on it, store all those cds, then ship them to thousands of different stores who are all ordering different quantities based on supply/demand. I can only assume it's more expensive than uploading a <20mb file to itunes or other music markets :confused:
 
US Music Sales Increased 6.9% in 2011 | Line Out

US music sales up 3.1 percent in 2012 thanks to digital single sales - TechSpot


The easiest way for a teenager now to hear a hit single is to go on youtube/vevo - where the RIAA shares in the ad revenue generated by billions of views, but it doesn't count towards sales figures. There's also things like Pandora, which in 2012 supposedly paid $3 million each just for people like Drake and Lil Wayne, but again, that money doesn't count as sales revenue.


Vevo CEO projects $1 billion in revenue | Reuters

Artists make money on Pandora, but earnings limited by RIAA | Digital Trends
 
lukep said:
The missus and I just had a long discussion about this... Well not if he's a fat fuck, but if he is right or wrong to make Mega.

Naturally I was of the opinion that the man is a hero for providing true encryption to the world that the government isn't likely to crack... But at the same time, he's pushing it in Hollywood's face basically shouting: "Quit your jobs now, I just fired you all."

Let's face it, if this thing works as advertised, Piracy won't be skimming a little anymore. It's going to destroy hollywood. Lives will be ruined, the industry probably won't survive it in any recognizable form.

So after a long talk about intellectual property and all that stuff, I'm starting to change my opinion about piracy... In short, the way Kim's going about this is wrong. As much as I feel the product is necessary, History won't be kind to him if & when no one makes movies anymore... We'll all be like: "Fuck, I really wanted to see Avengers 3 but now they aren't going to make it... THANKS KIM!"

OK that may be a bit extreme of an example but you get the point.

Here's the thing we really should be discussing; If he were truly a great, moral guy who wanted to make the world a better place and give use truly private file sharing without hurting anyone, he could always limit the # of receivers per file to 1.

Think about that for a sec. If he made Mega do all that it does, but each file can only be downloaded by 1 individual, then Hollywood & the record industry wouldn't be out of work, and everyone could get the true benefit here: Truly private, super-encrypted communications.

...Of course then he wouldn't be able to monetize mega. So we know that won't ever be considered. Hell, he's got investors and owes them a profit so even if he wanted to now he couldn't.

So although I'm generally against intellectual property in the first place, there was a way to offer this particular wonder of modern technology without destroying the livelihoods of literally thousands of people and ruining our new-movie-watching experience for the rest of our lives.

So in my book, Kim's no hero, but his commercial venture offers a benefit that a hero could have invented, tied to something that I'd consider cold and almost evil now.

Perhaps if uncle sam does take mega down somehow, the person to revive it without the evil part can be a real hero and limit transfers to 1 recipient.
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Any dimwit could just go on 1channel or any of the millions of other movie aggregation sites and watch new movies a day after they come out. But we see movies pulling record numbers year after year. Billion dollar movies are almost commonplace now when unheard of in the past. You go to the theater for the experience not the movie. You go there to eat popcorn, to hang out with friends and dates, the big ass screen and the after hour handjobs in the dark. Can't get any of that online. The reason music is more effected is because it is a private affair -it is not a social experience and an mp3 from piratebay vs itunes is the same (better really). The alternative to that are live concerts where artists make the real money today. You can pirate IP but not experience.
 
ayzo said:
One thing that graph doesn't take into account is the cost of CD sales. I'd imagine that producing millions of cds isn't cheap when you have to make a copy, print the cover, print on the cd, print the booklet, put it all in a case, slap retail/advisory stickers on it, store all those cds, then ship them to thousands of different stores who are all ordering different quantities based on supply/demand. I can only assume it's more expensive than uploading a <20mb file to itunes or other music markets :confused:
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It's actually cheap. We're talking less than 10% of all cost. Most of the cost is in marketing and a big chunk to distribution platform owners. I don't believe costs have gone down much -in the digital book industry which I am familiar with costs are roughly the same between a kindle book and a hard copy in stores. There is a difference but it is very minor and often eaten up by high license costs. For video games the difference is a bit larger due to lower fees charged by platforms and the comparatively high cut Ebgames takes vs other software retailers. But even there we're talking a percent in the low-mid teens.
 
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