Let's talk about Death

even more depressing is the fact that not only will you be dead and gone, but you won't even be remembered. sure, you're immediate family and friends remember you now, but, within 50 or so years = buh-bye. unless you're someone that has done something 'important' in public life, society etc. we remember them, Alexander Bell, Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, but most of us don't fit into that category so it's curtains for the rest of us!

(sort of interesting about human nature that each of us individually thinks that we actually *matter*? Somehow we all think we're the center of the Universe. LOL)

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Just hope that by the time you're close to your end that we'll come up with a way to defeat death and illness. The chances are slim, but just hope. Try to live your life as best you can so you won't have any regrets when you die. Don't turn a blind eye to others suffering. That will really eat at your soul when you're dying a painful death for 3-5 minutes straight.
 
I truly believe that in my lifetime humans will achieve indefinite lifespans due to singularity.

So I honestly believe I can cheat death.

This is the shit.

For those unfamiliar with him here's the explanation for his ideas so you know he's not pulling them from his ass Ray Kurzweil on how technology will transform us | Video on TED.com

When I first found about him I was kinda repulsed by the whole singularity thing for some reason but I've come to terms with it now and accept it as a high probability future prediction.

I believe I should experience singularity in my life span so I don't really obsess over my death. Live healthy and relatively safe to experience amazing technological advancements that await us.

Also Kurzweil is THE man and an exceptional businessman so there's something to be learned from him.
 
That life extension TED video was pretty interesting. All we have to do is get to escape velocity -
Life expectancy increases slightly every year as treatment strategies and technologies improve. At present, more than one year of research is required for each additional year of expected life. Actuarial escape velocity occurs when this ratio reverses, so that life expectancy increases faster than one year per one year of research.



Looking forward to this - "Google banned my adsense account after 325 years!"
 
Living forever.. Shit's a double-edge sword. Personally the fact that death exists is always an option is comforting. Once you can live forever, it also means you can be enslaved or suffer forever. Gives a whole new meaning to "consecutive life sentences". Also, the most ancient beings of the world would become pseudo-masters and wars/revolutions wouldn't even be an option to take them out (the boss that never dies). Not even through suicide could you escape this unfair existence where the odds are stacked against due to forced life-preservation technologies?... that'd be worse than death.

The ultimate equalizer of all people, rich or poor, is death. No matter who you are or what you've done, you're going to die. So live well and to the max and embrace death, because without it, you'd be living a far worse life (imho).
 
This is the shit.

For those unfamiliar with him here's the explanation for his ideas so you know he's not pulling them from his ass Ray Kurzweil on how technology will transform us | Video on TED.com

When I first found about him I was kinda repulsed by the whole singularity thing for some reason but I've come to terms with it now and accept it as a high probability future prediction.

I believe I should experience singularity in my life span so I don't really obsess over my death. Live healthy and relatively safe to experience amazing technological advancements that await us.

Also Kurzweil is THE man and an exceptional businessman so there's something to be learned from him.


LOL. That guy's living in la la land. Yeah the technology may be out in 10 years, but who the hell's gonna be able to afford it? You can bet your ass it'll be at least 30-50 years before any of that stuff is mainstream. Besides, he forgot to take into account the fact that the earth has limited resources. If we all had 10 billion transistors in every shirt we owned and another 5 billion in our bodies, how many transistors would we all need in total? More than this world has the capacity to produce, I can assure you. :rolleyes:
 
LOL. That guy's living in la la land. Yeah the technology may be out in 10 years, but who the hell's gonna be able to afford it? You can bet your ass it'll be at least 30-50 years before any of that stuff is mainstream. Besides, he forgot to take into account the fact that the earth has limited resources. If we all had 10 billion transistors in every shirt we owned and another 5 billion in our bodies, how many transistors would we all need in total? More than this world has the capacity to produce, I can assure you. :rolleyes:

The way I see it your argument is pretty much the same as how there were only a few computers 40 years ago on the whole world and now almost everyone in the developed world has at least one (desktop computer and portable computer - smartphone).

But generally speaking I do agree with you, Kurzweil is probably overestimating the speed of development ESPECIALLY because he's not accounting possible stops in technological advancement in computing (limits of physics with our current type of technology). Though a counter argument could be that every time a stop in technology happens there's a pressure to invent new technologies to counter the setback.

However thing is, even if he's a few decades off that doesn't significantly lower our chance of experiencing it because medical advancement will slowly extend our lifespan as we move forward.
 
LOL. That guy's living in la la land. Yeah the technology may be out in 10 years, but who the hell's gonna be able to afford it? You can bet your ass it'll be at least 30-50 years before any of that stuff is mainstream. Besides, he forgot to take into account the fact that the earth has limited resources. If we all had 10 billion transistors in every shirt we owned and another 5 billion in our bodies, how many transistors would we all need in total? More than this world has the capacity to produce, I can assure you. :rolleyes:

The problem with this guy's utopian dream is the fact that we can't even code a spreadsheet that works properly let alone some kind of biological process. I mean, that's what he's saying, right? We're going to "code" the first self-aware/learning/replicating 'machine/robot' within the next 10 years, and given the 100% reliability of the exponential curve, it doesn't matter because it will fix its own errors. I would love to hear from this guy, Ray Kurzweil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia to atleast answer some questions.

Anyone wanna try and get ahold of him? He seems like he can predict the future.
 
There is a lot of belief that 20 or so years down the line, technology will allow us to reverse the ageing process and even prevent disease through nanotechnology, but no one seems to have an answer for physical trauma. Who knows though? Look after yourself and see what happens. As others have posted, read up on Ray Kurzweil's work.
 

Ahhh, our wonderful pale blue dot. I had just got done watching this: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_naQhynOg0"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/ame] when I scrolled past that image. Carl Sagan was freakin' awesome.

As far as the death stuff goes.. I have kind of been numb to it my whole life. My father passed when I was just five years old and each subsequent person who has passed who was close to me has just made me even more cold. I don't really cry, get upset or show much emotion over death. There has been a couple occasions where I'll have literal break downs and huge bouts of crying when something triggers a memory or relation to one of my deceased family members or friends.

For example, watching the last days of Captain Phil on Deadliest Catch (yeah, I know..ahah) kind of hit home to me because I've watched every season of that show and Phil really reminded me of what I remember of my Father and because of that I really felt what his kids were going through as it happened on the show. I wont lie I got kind of misty eyed watching the last couple episodes and tribute shows.

tl;dr

Carl Sagan is awesome.
Death is a part of life we all have to accept and deal with.
I'm rather cold and numb towards it minus the occasional breakdown when something triggers a memory.
 
Ahhh, our wonderful pale blue dot. I had just got done watching this: YouTube- Broadcast Yourself. when I scrolled past that image. Carl Sagan was freakin' awesome.

As far as the death stuff goes.. I have kind of been numb to it my whole life. My father passed when I was just five years old and each subsequent person who has passed who was close to me has just made me even more cold. I don't really cry, get upset or show much emotion over death. There has been a couple occasions where I'll have literal break downs and huge bouts of crying when something triggers a memory or relation to one of my deceased family members or friends.

For example, watching the last days of Captain Phil on Deadliest Catch (yeah, I know..ahah) kind of hit home to me because I've watched every season of that show and Phil really reminded me of what I remember of my Father and because of that I really felt what his kids were going through as it happened on the show. I wont lie I got kind of misty eyed watching the last couple episodes and tribute shows.

tl;dr

Carl Sagan is awesome.
Death is a part of life we all have to accept and deal with.
I'm rather cold and numb towards it minus the occasional breakdown when something triggers a memory.

It's cool, I cried for you, tough guy.
 
Ahahaha, thanks man!

I really wasn't trying to come off as some hardass or something.. it's just that everyone deals with death in their own ways. I'm more the type to bottle things up instead of dealing with the emotion at the time of the event. Sometimes it's not until years later that things really get to me as I said usually through something triggering a memory.

I know the whole "bottling up emotions is unhealthy" rant that usually comes along with that, but that's just how I deal I guess.

Who knows maybe I'm just a heartless psychopath and I'll end up going on a murderous rampage with all of these pent up emotions being part of my temporary insanity plea.

:uhoh2:
 
The way I see it your argument is pretty much the same as how there were only a few computers 40 years ago on the whole world and now almost everyone in the developed world has at least one (desktop computer and portable computer - smartphone).

But generally speaking I do agree with you, Kurzweil is probably overestimating the speed of development ESPECIALLY because he's not accounting possible stops in technological advancement in computing (limits of physics with our current type of technology). Though a counter argument could be that every time a stop in technology happens there's a pressure to invent new technologies to counter the setback.

However thing is, even if he's a few decades off that doesn't significantly lower our chance of experiencing it because medical advancement will slowly extend our lifespan as we move forward.

According to Moore's Law law cheap ($1000) computers will reach the processing capacity of the human brain of the brain by 2025, which is before we will run into physical limitations that will end Moore's Law (Intel has said they expect Moore's Law to continue until appx. 2029). All we need to do is reach that tipping point and incredible things will begin to happen. So I still think Kurzweil's timeline is pretty accurate.