lol creationists



Nick Gotelli's response is rife with the same errors he attributes to creationists.

Not sure I would hold this article up as proof of anything but how fundamentally hypocritical and irrational every person can be.
 
IN THE FACE!

I love it. No more debates for me! Rusky and other godlovers need to go get their papers published in Nature or PNAS before they can address me again. :thumbsup:

Or at least quote one... I guess that's only fair since I didn't personally publish one... Even still I doubt they'd be able to find much at PNAS to support their theories.

BTW; anyone notice that there's been an uptick of religion threads today on Easter? Hmm... Can't imagine why...
 
I can think of nothing quite as tiresome as debating the existence of god. It amazes me that either side is able to get some sort of charge out of asserting their position on the matter.
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9BfsHsVGNg&"]Eric Hovind OFFICIALLY accepts atheism is true and accurate - YouTube[/ame]
 
I can think of nothing quite as tiresome as debating the existence of god. It amazes me that either side is able to get some sort of charge out of asserting their position on the matter.

You must be a creationist then, or at the minimum an agnostic leaning toward theist beliefs.

For atheists, the debate is pretty amusing, like telling a child there is no santa claus.. then hilarity ensues when the child sticks to his guns, points at his fairy tale book and tells you that you are wrong. That's what atheists get out of it... The reason creationists argue back and often get offended easily is because they don't like their belief system being challenged, that of which they have tied their emotions, morals, even their very purpose on this planet to.
 
You must be a creationist then, or at the minimum an agnostic leaning toward theist beliefs.

For atheists, the debate is pretty amusing, like telling a child there is no santa claus.. then hilarity ensues when the child sticks to his guns, points at his fairy tale book and tells you that you are wrong. That's what atheists get out of it... The reason creationists argue back and often get offended easily is because they don't like their belief system being challenged, that of which they have tied their emotions, morals, even their very purpose on this planet to.

It seems like both sides are over-invested in it really. If you get that much enjoyment out of trolling creationists, perhaps it's due to some inborn need to feel superior? I don't personally believe in an all knowing, all powerful deity, but I don't feel the need to poke at people who do. You might want to reexamine your definition of childish.
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2W-Sr8eywc&feature=related]Atheism destroyed with one question - YouTube[/ame]
 
I believe in God.. And I also believe in creationism. After all Men (and women) created god. I don't believe that God created us though. Men are the creationist of God. And God is great. We created HIM that way.
 
It seems like both sides are over-invested in it really. If you get that much enjoyment out of trolling creationists, perhaps it's due to some inborn need to feel superior? I don't personally believe in an all knowing, all powerful deity, but I don't feel the need to poke at people who do. You might want to reexamine your definition of childish.

Feel the need to poke at them? I'm pretty sure I know what side of the fence you stand on, and that's all well and good. But if you were on my side you would know that outside of media, in the real world, the majority of the time it is atheists and agnostics that are poked at, not vice versa. Why? One, we are the minority, second and most importantly, our knowledge threatens their belief system. If you think it's just atheists that are condescending toward creationists, you haven't been out much.
 
Feel the need to poke at them? I'm pretty sure I know what side of the fence you stand on, and that's all well and good. But if you were on my side you would know that outside of media, in the real world, the majority of the time it is atheists and agnostics that are poked at, not vice versa. Why? One, we are the minority, second and most importantly, our knowledge threatens their belief system. If you think it's just atheists that are condescending toward creationists, you haven't been out much.

Are you "pretty sure you know what side of the fence I stand on" because I told you in my last post that I don't believe in god, or are you getting your information from somewhere else?

You seem oblivious to the fact that the very nature of faith precludes it's destruction at the hands of logic. I figured since all vocal atheists have a monopoly on rational thought, you would have puzzled that one out for yourselves by now.

Trying to convince a theist that there is no god is like trying to convince someone who loves the way chocolate ice cream tastes that they should eat broccoli instead because it's more nutritious. The fact that broccoli is more nutritious doesn't change the fact that it's a futile argument.

Then again, maybe theists are just intimidated by your knowledge of broccoli and the way it challenges their belief that chocolate ice cream is delicious.
 
The reason creationists argue back and often get offended easily is because they don't like their belief system being challenged, that of which they have tied their emotions, morals, even their very purpose on this planet to.
No one likes their belief system challenged because it is interpreted by our crocodile brains as an attack on our identity. A high powered psychological assault.

That's why people tend to avoid emotionally charged topics like religion and politics at the dinner table. It's also why political debates (like religious debates) rarely go anywhere.

Anyone who spends his time judging others is a hypocrite and probably an asshole, that goes for Creationist and Atheist alike.
 
Trying to convince a theist that there is no god is like trying to convince someone who loves the way ice cream tastes that they should eat broccoli instead because it's more nutritious. The fact that broccoli is more nutritious doesn't change the fact that it's a futile argument.

Bad analogy. A better one would be if someone published a book (the bible) that convinced everyone that eating gallons of ice cream everyday would help with weightloss and you try to convince them that the book is bullshit.
 
Values and our perception of reality are completely subjective, and anyone who has trouble coming to terms with the fact that other people have different opinions and ideas is probably a small minded idiot, no matter how smart they think they are for "not believing in the bible".

They are also probably a shitty marketer.