London machete attack!

[teatree]

I said its ok to kill soliders who are on your land and have killed your own people. Bloody sunday alone would make me join the IRA.
The Wolfe Tones- Go On Home British soldiers - YouTube

When I said you were acting "just like an Islamist", you then decided to go ahead and prove me right?

The Brighton Bombs did not happen in Ireland, they happened in England, The cabinet ministers murdered were not soldiers. The 4000 civilians murdered in cold blood were not soldiers. The IRA were murderers and terrorists.

As for your comment that's "it's Ok to kill soldiers" - you sound just like machete guy. Like I said, Al Queda and IRA - two cheeks of the same arse. In fact I believe that the IRA were getting their arms from Libya and other middle east terrorists. You both think the same. You act the same. But you can't see it.

 

[conjamuk]

Wow, just Wow!

So - I'm upset that the IRA murdered over 4000 Brits, including the cousin of the Queen and several elected cabinet ministers. And I see the rise of Al Queda (who've so far murdered 55 Brits on 7/7 plus these recent murders) as another manifestation of the same problem - terrorism. And in your warped brain this means I have a connection with Al Queda? Seriously?

You really believe that terrorists murdering cabinet minsters plus civilians is nothing at all but terrorists doing the same thing, except in this century is huge? And that saying "terrorists are terrorists" is "flawed logic"?

Let me turn it around - why do you think the murder of Thatcher's cabinet ministers is OK? Are you an IRA sympathiser who believes it's good and proper to kill elected members of Parliament because of some fantastical "freedom to murder" that you support? And why the denial that they were religious terrorists? They didn't have any other types of religion in their outfit - no protestants, no hindus, definitely no jews.

Why are you so desperate to believe that the IRA terrorists were not terrorists? Because you and your family were financing them? In other words, you and your family were acting in the exact same way that the supporters of the Islamists - with money and bizarre rationalisation that they are murdering in a good cause?

They are terrorists from your view point yes. What right do you have to occupy one third of our country? Do you really think people would not fight back when you murder our people on our soil. 800 years of persecution and you blame religion for the IRA.

Funny thing is your country is being invaded right now.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psZBaJU_Cvo"]The Horrific Muslim Infiltration Of Britain - Luton 2012 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[teatree]

They are terrorists from your view point yes. What right do you have to occupy one third of our country? Do you really think people would not fight back when you murder our people on our soil. 800 years of persecution and you blame religion for the IRA.


Funny thing is your country is being invaded right now.

We do have a lot of Irish people invading the UK, yes. Refugees from the economic mess in their own country I believe.

And we don't actually want to "occupy" N.I. - we're keeping the peace between the Catholics and the Protestants (who are of Scottish descent). We'd dearly love to spin them loose - I mean it makes no sense to subsidise a bunch of terrorists who even to this day believe they are justified in murdering (in the exact same way the Islamists justify their murders).

The problem is the Irish Republic doesn't want N.I. either, they're broke and can't afford to take on the £6bn per annum subsidy themselves. In fact I understand that the deepest fear in the Republic is that the IRA terrorists will get elected to office - they are running for office at the next election - and it would serve Ireland right if they were elected and they got a taste of their own and got to experience the nightmare themselves.

 

[yast]

This thread is now about

 

[conjamuk]

We do have a lot of Irish people invading the UK, yes. Refugees from the economic mess in their own country I believe.

And we don't actually want to "occupy" N.I. - we're keeping the peace between the Catholics and the Protestants (who are of Scottish descent). We'd dearly love to spin them loose - I mean it makes no sense to subsidise a bunch of terrorists who even to this day believe they are justified in murdering (in the exact same way the Islamists justify their murders).

The problem is the Irish Republic doesn't want N.I. either, they're broke and can't afford to take on the £6bn per annum subsidy themselves. In fact I understand that the deepest fear in the Republic is that the IRA terrorists will get elected to office - they are running for office at the next election - and it would serve Ireland right if they were elected and they got a taste of their own and got to experience the nightmare themselves.

I take it you did not see the luton vid lulz. I actually pity your country a once great empire now a shadow of its glory. Americas lapdog.

 

[Svengali]

Holy fuckin' Jedi mind trick.

This thread is now about the IRA.


:1orglaugh:

 

[shiftymcnab]

I take it you did not see the luton vid lulz. I actually pity your country a once great empire now a shadow of its glory. Americas lapdog.

I take it you meant this one?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KtJKNgO_ys]Are Muslim Extremists Invading Britain? - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JMan1234]

Three things:

1) The "New" Testament is roughly 1800-2000 years old, yet you're pitching it like the revised edition was pushed out by Random House in 2009 or some shit. Arguing that one of the oldest still-circulated books is more relevant today than a book that's a few thousand years older is just stupid, unfounded logic.

2) "The fact is, with the Quran and followers of Islam, in TODAY'S WORLD, it's "convert or die". Convert or die, that's it.

You won't find this in Christianity today, absolutely not. "

Exhibit A: "Convert or spend eternity in hell" - Majority of Christians

3) Not all Muslims follow, believe in, or even acknowledge Sharia Law. That's like saying that all Christians acknowledge Joseph Smith as a holy man...only a subset of Muslims (albeit arguably sizable, but with over a billion followers, every subset is going to be pretty big) adhere to that shit.

1. No, it's not. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Based on your answers, I'm certain you have never studied Christianity (I have, extensively).

2. Are you serious?? Really?? A Christian saying that someone who does not accept Christ and dies will go to hell, that's nothing at all like a follower of Islam saying "Convert to Islam or I will cut off your head". A Christian will, out of love and compassion, attempt to convert the non believer. At NO TIME, will the Christian threaten death to the non believer. They comparison you are trying to make is so far off the mark, it's laughable, it really is.

3. As with #2, your comparison just doesn't make sense.

 

[Moxie]

They didn't have any other types of religion in their outfit - no protestants,

I believe that there were some Protestants in the IRA, but you're definitely correct about the IRA having connections to Muslim groups.


RealClearWorld - IRA-PLO Cooperation: A Long, Cozy Relationship

Report: IRA "trained" Jenin Palestinian bombers - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

Libyan arms helped the IRA to wage war - Telegraph

 

[emp]

IMHO, you banned rusvik because your personal sentiments were against his posts. If you think you overacted why don't you fix it? In Dresdens case it was different, you did not overact but he kept coming back because of his connections. Similarly in some part of the world a killer will come back from the jail if he has ministers as his friends.

Being a German you have a highest standards against racism (It is a good thing. I like you) But, here in wickedfire we always go politically incorrect and such overacting intimidates people from honestly telling what they think. We don't let the niceness subvert facts. With this standard, you should have banned 50% of the WF people already.

Why don't I remedy it? because I stand for my decision.

If any other mod finds this is overstepping the bounds, he/she can repeal the ban. I will not.

::emp::

 

[emp]

And it is no permanent either... A week off WF will probably propel his productivity to unknown heights.

::emp::

 

[teatree]

I believe that there were some Protestants in the IRA, but you're definitely correct about the IRA having connections to Muslim groups.


RealClearWorld - IRA-PLO Cooperation: A Long, Cozy Relationship

Report: IRA "trained" Jenin Palestinian bombers - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

Libyan arms helped the IRA to wage war - Telegraph

Yeah - but lots of people are in denial about it. They've been fed all the propaganda. Plus there's an element of "the Kennedy family liked the IRA therefore the murders must be justified".

 

[conjamuk]

Yeah - but lots of people are in denial about it. They've been fed all the propaganda. Plus there's an element of "the Kennedy family liked the IRA therefore the murders must be justified".

Its a load of lies also.
"When you put two and two together then it seems that they (the Palestinian bombers) could well have been trained by the IRA," added the former British army bomb disposal officer.

"What’s more, Irish terrorists may even link America’s foes abroad to its enemies at home"

"may" "could well have"

Your side is great at lying. If you research most of the claims made by the left many are blatant lies.

 

[teatree]

Its a load of lies also.
"When you put two and two together then it seems that they (the Palestinian bombers) could well have been trained by the IRA," added the former British army bomb disposal officer.

"What’s more, Irish terrorists may even link America’s foes abroad to its enemies at home"

"may" "could well have"

Your side is great at lying. If you research most of the claims made by the left many are blatant lies.

You are in denial about the IRA links to the Islamists.

Oh -and you realize that the IRA are extreme left, right? Here's what their own website says it's aiming for if they get elected in the irish republic:

The state should provide essential services to the economy (nationalised/state services). There should be a state bank, a state insurance company, state fuel company, state IT company (telephone/broadband etc), state health system, state transport and state schools & universities.

Poor conjamuk - imagine if you'd have actually gone ahead and joined them like you said you wanted to a few posts back. You'd not only be helping train muslim terrorists but be fighting for a "state IT company" and a "state insurance company", and all their other barmy policies.

Like I said - it would serve the Irish Republic right if these nutters got elected there. They'd then reap the whilwind like they deserve.

 

[conjamuk]

You are in denial about the IRA links to the Islamists.

Oh -and you realize that the IRA are extreme left, right? Here's what their own website says it's aiming for if they get elected in the irish republic:



Poor conjamuk - imagine if you'd have actually gone ahead and joined them like you said you wanted to a few posts back. You'd not only be helping train muslim terrorists but be fighting for a "state IT company" and a "state insurance company", and all their other barmy policies.

Like I said - it would serve the Irish Republic right if these nutters got elected there. They'd then reap the whilwind like they deserve.

They have received weapons from Lybia, Czechoslovakia, sweden, Norway. Just because they bought weapons from a Libyan arms dealer means fuck all. They did NOT train the Taliban. lulz you call Sein Fein "nutters" yet retards like you allow these "nutters" into your country.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psZBaJU_Cvo]The Horrific Muslim Infiltration Of Britain - Luton 2012 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Zaino]

I hate it when Christians say this. It's still the same asshole running things isn't it? This just shows the god to now be a schizophrenic asshole.


**Disclaimer: I understand that I should be using the phrase MPD instead of schizophrenic but it just doesn't have that same ring

It does until you realize they are not the words of god but of some dudes....

 

[Zaino]

They have received weapons from Lybia, Czechoslovakia, sweden, Norway. Just because they bought weapons from a Libyan arms dealer means fuck all. They did NOT train the Taliban. lulz you call Sein Fein "nutters" yet retards like you allow these "nutters" into your country.

The Horrific Muslim Infiltration Of Britain - Luton 2012 - YouTube

At some point these people will push enough that they will see what happens when they really have our full attention. Then it will be 24/7 street justice, lynchings, and all out mowing people down for just having a beard.

until then, carry on.

 

[Ibanez | Jan]

 

[teatree]

lulz you call Sein Fein "nutters" yet retards like you allow these "nutters" into your country.

No difference between them. IRA nutters = Al Queda nutters.

Or do you fondly imagine being blown to bits by a litter box bomb is a "better" death than being beheaded? I'm pretty sure the victims didn't agree. There is no "acceptable" way to get murdered.

You sound like the Islamists in the way you are trying to justify your pet terrorists.

When you admit that the IRA did terrible things, then you might have some credibilty when you warn about others. When you keep parroting machete guy and say things like "it's OK to kill soldiers", you have zero credibility.

BTW - according to my parents, there was a big discussion in the 70's about whether we should allow Irish "nutters" in the country. The question was are they all nutters, or is it just a few. Some justified putting up "No dogs, No Irish" signs, and others said it would be wrong to tar a whole group - where would you have been in that argument? You are in the "they've killed, they're all terrorists" camp, right?

 

[conjamuk]

No difference between them. IRA nutters = Al Queda nutters.

Or do you fondly imagine being blown to bits by a litter box bomb is a "better" death than being beheaded? I'm pretty sure the victims didn't agree.

You sound like the Islamists in the way you are trying to justify your pet terrorists.

When you admit that the IRA did terrible things, then you might have some credibilty when you warn about others. When you keep parroting machete guy and say things like "it's OK to kill soldiers", you have zero credibility.

BTW - according to my parents, there was a big discussion in the 70's about whether we should allow Irish "nutters" in the country. The question was are they all nutters, or is it just a few. Some justified putting up "No dogs, No Irish" signs, and others said it would be wrong to tar a whole group - where would you have been in that argument? You are in the "they've killed, they're all terrorists" camp, right?

When did the IRA behead thousands of kids per year

When did the IRA shoot a 14 year old in the head because she wanted to learn

When did the IRA stone people to death for being gay

When did the IRA stone people to death for being atheist.

When did the IRA teach rape is ok
ARE YOU HAPPY TO DEFEND THIS?

Go fuck yourself.