Mastercard & Visa are Going to Start Banning VPN's



So if I am using a VPN you can capture my traffic? Even my email? Clearly you're an expert. So why don't you explain the purpose of using a VPN?

I thought you said you were done arguing? I guess I should assume everything that comes out of your mouth is a load of shit.

A VPN only encrypts your communication up to the VPN server. After that point, it's sent plaintext. So if you're sending out an email (you did say SMTP and not POP3) then a VPN only gives you security up to the point of the VPN server. After that point, it's sent plaintext and there's a lot of third parties that can happily snoop on that shit.

If you're receiving a plaintext email, the same also applies. Remember VPN isn't end to end encryption. The transmission is only encrypted from the VPN server to you.

If you actually want true encryption for your email, then you should use something like PGP.

You need to better educate yourself on this shit because you clearly don't understand how a VPN works, and therefore all you have is a false sense of security.

I think I finally figured out the breakdown in our communication. You assumed the user is on a foreign terminal; I assumed they were on their own personal device (that's what we do in America).

I assumed you were talking about a net cafe because you said "cafe". Maybe you should learn to communicate more clearly. Also a net cafe or your work computer is probably the most likely place your shit could get snooped.

HK has more mobile devices than people, so yeah people here use a smartphones. We are after all talking about an East Asian city that is also an international financial center.

A VPN can protect your communication better if you're on a foreign terminal such as a work computer or a internet cafe terminal. With a mobile device, you can also use a VPN to protect against wifi snoops.

But remember, you only have protection from the mobile device to the VPN server. After that point, you're totally exposed unless there's another layer of encryption like https.


Lol. They are going to hunt you down. They don't like it when you skip town to find a tax haven. Good luck bro.

LOL you're a moron. It's called renouncing your US citizenship. Only US citizens have to deal with this shit too. Europeans can enjoy all the tax haven benefits without having to renounce.

Thanks for proving my point on how Americans lack freedom.


Who said he "gave up" on his country?

Certainly not me.

Lol Why would you just give up on your country? Wasn't it worth fighting for? Sorry but that just doesn't make sense to me.

Nice work with the consistency you computer illiterate provincial dumbass.
 
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Also the original purpose of a VPN was to be able to securely log into your employer's restricted Intranet through the Internet. For that purpose, a VPN did offer good security because there was in fact end to end encryption from your remote Internet location to the employer's Intranet.

However once you start using a VPN to access external Internet sites, then your encrypted communication vanishes from the VPN to the external Internet site unless something like https is used.
 
Lack of privacy is really starting to cause me anxiety. I'm like one more news article away from buying an offgrid cabin in the woods.
 
dmnEPC, less ignorance about offshore / living abroad plz.

My only point was rEnouncing your citizenship does not remove the US jurisdiction over your prior tax obligations. Is this not true? That was it.

That and imho renouncing citizenship is basically a cowerdly way to obtain freedom. It's an opinion and it's mine.

As to blue china. I have no idea what you're so butt hurt over? You came into this thread looking for a fight. It's my fault for falling for it. What I don't understand is why you choose to reduce your argument down to name calling? You claim mental superiority, yet you insist on name calling and belittling. Maybe your dad didn't hug you enough? I don't know. I'm sure you will twist this all up to show your mental superiority and that's ok, but I am no longer participating. Have a nice day.
 
My only point was rEnouncing your citizenship does not remove the US jurisdiction over your prior tax obligations. Is this not true?

Who said anything about not paying your prior taxes while you were a US citizen? That's you making assumptions again.

However once you renounce your US citizenship, you are legally free and clear of having to pay future US taxes; you can enjoy totally tax free income.

Europeans, Canadians, and basically the rest of the world don't need to go through this hassle. They can retain their original citizenship and just make themselves a non resident of their home country for tax purposes. Then they can enjoy tax free residency in a tax haven without the permanent loss of their nationality.

The US government strictly forbids this, and it's the only nation in the world that has this policy. Does that sound like freedom to you? It sounds like slavery to me.


That and imho renouncing citizenship is basically a cowerdly way to obtain freedom. It's an opinion and it's mine.

There's you being sentimental again. A free man chooses. They are not bound to one particular land just because they happened to be born there. Don't be a slave.

There's nothing cowardly about moving to a foreign country, learning a foreign language, and learning about a new culture; and then decide you want to change your nationality to your new home country.

On the other hand, I don't see anything brave about staying in your home town and not experiencing the world. It's very easy for you to talk big about you staying to defend your home land, when all it boils down to is asking "questions" about the official story of incident XYZ and cooking up a conspiracy theory out of it.



You claim mental superiority, yet you insist on name calling and belittling.

I do have a nasty habit of having a sharp tongue on people who I feel are being ignorant as fuck.

However I also did explain how a VPN works as well as the major disadvantages to using one. A VPN can however be used as part of a privacy protecting strategy, especially if it's a VPN you configured yourself on a VPS since then you have full control of the server.

Maybe your dad didn't hug you enough? I don't know. I'm sure you will twist this all up to show your mental superiority and that's ok, but I am no longer participating. Have a nice day.

Nah, the relationship with my father was excellent. But nevertheless you are close with your criticism here.

I do have a relative who is obsessed about conspiracy theory shit, and is engaged in harmful activity as a result of it. It's very painful for me to see it happen, since I am totally powerless to stop it. That's why I get a bit overzealous when I see baseless conspiracy theory shit being spouted.

However don't confuse that with me trusting the US government and blindly swallowing what they say. But that doesn't mean I think every major incident has some kind of conspiracy behind it and that the official story is some sort of cover up. Sometimes that very well may be the case, but the government isn't exactly the most competent when it comes to keeping the lid on shit like this.
 
You're not allowed to complain the government places too many regulations on companies, then turn around and bitch about how a company conducts its operations. That's called being a hypocrite. :)

Except when government regulations are the reason you don't have a choice between which companies you use, which allows the companies to get away with treating their customers like dirt.