Meat Exposed. Why you should be Vegetarian

Meat and meat products are tasty and don't cost much in the U.S., which is probably a big reason why 34% of Americans are obese. I've got some great ideas how to solve several problems at once. Make food stamps valid only for vegan food. And under Obamacare if you are overweight you are forced to eat vegan. I'm working on some more ways to intrude in y'all's personal lives.

I agree with that.

Also put a tax on meat in general and fast food and alcohol and smokes! And cut the prices on greens and fruits. Anything unhealthy should hurt your pockets.

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Obamacare for president.
 


I agree with that.

Also put a tax on meat in general and fast food and alcohol and smokes! And cut the prices on greens and fruits. Anything unhealthy should hurt your pockets.

:)

Obamacare for president.

I don't like taxes so I don't like your ideas. I was just trying to spin bad policy (food stamps and Obamacare). If the government is going confiscate my money so it can hand out food then I want them handing out vegan food.
 
How many of you would eat meat if you had to kill the animal yourselves, rather than buy it pre-packed from a shelf?

I would ESPECIALLY eat it then, and not feel bad about it. When I hunt or fish, we always eat what we kill. I still wont stop eating meat, ( I've tried for a little health experiment and it was impossible for me) but It does piss me off they are treated this way.

There is a natural way of doing things, killing animals off skill and eating only what your need....or farming animals and letting them live a life and again, only killing what you need...and then there is this shit.
 
I would ESPECIALLY eat it then, and not feel bad about it. When I hunt or fish, we always eat what we kill. I still wont stop eating meat, ( I've tried for a little health experiment and it was impossible for me) but It does piss me off they are treated this way.

There is a natural way of doing things, killing animals off skill and eating only what your need....or farming animals and letting them live a life and again, only killing what you need...and then there is this shit.

This. Would probably eat a lot more chicken, goat, deer, squirrel, rabbit if I had to hunt or raise my own meat.

I did a quick bit of research. If you get a medium double cheeseburger meal at mcdonalds, your pushing 1200 almost 1300 calories. Each patty of meat is 90 calories, of those 1300 calories do you think the 180 calories from beef is what tipped this meal over the edge?
 
Stating your opinions as facts is pretty stupid. There are many different protein sources and many of those are not from meat. Most vegetarians add at least one protein source to each meal or otherwise they are doing it wrong... you will get anemia if you just eat pasta (lol).

Here is few sources listed: hxxp://www.marksdailyapple.com/top-ten-protein-sources/

And you don't lose your muscles in vegetarian diet if you eat right. For example Shaolin monks have been on vegetarian diet hundreds of years and are/were in pretty good shape. There are actually many vegetarian bodybuilders too.

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I was a vegetarian for 4 years, vegan for 1 year.

People that say being a vegetarian is a healthy alternative are incorrect.

1. You can eat unhealthy as a vegetarian or vegan. It makes it harder but its still very possible. As a personal example I ate a fuckton of pasta

2. Health issues with being vegetarian: Anemia. Yes you can eat things with iron in them blah blah, but practically I know of no vegetarians that eat enough iron to prevent this

3. Say goodbye to your muscles

What it comes down to is this...and I have failed on doing this to be fair.

Eat vegetables like a vegetarian and add meat. Problem is most meat eaters do not eat enough vegetables.

Lately I have been doing 1 cup of veggies, 8oz of meat, 3/4 cup of carbs. Seems to be the best breakdown and I am losing weight like a chick doing coke.
Anecdotes != Evidence.
 
I don't eat industrially produced meat or buy it from supermarkets. I go to the farm where it's raised, and visit the animals pretty much every week from birth until they are slaughtered and hung ready for my to buy.

The problem isn't meat eating, it's industrial food production. The non-meat side of industrial isn't exactly great either.
 
How many of you would eat meat if you had to kill the animal yourselves, rather than buy it pre-packed from a shelf?

Done it. It tastes far better if you kill, gut and butcher the animal yourself. Seriously, getting your hands into a warm fresh carcass is a wonderful experience, you should try it.

If I had time, that's all I'd eat.
 
There are these things called amino acids. Those are very important chemicals that our body needs to synthesize lipids and proteins(the building blocks of our body).

Out of the hundreds of millions amino acids out there there are 20 amino acids which the human body cannot synthesize by itself. They are called essential amino acids.

The most convenient and abundant place to find all the essential amino acids is red meat.

Humans are genetically programmed to release hormones that make you "happy" when your body has everything it needs for it's well being. Ergo we are genetically programmed to like red meat a lot like women are attracted to men who have power, be it money, physical strength, intelligence, good look, etc., because they are searching for the male that can deliver the best genetic material, and protect her and their offspring. And like males are cheating by nature, because they are programmed to spread their seed as much as possible. It is deeply encoded in our DNA from our beloved mammal ancestors. It was the way to survive millions of years ago and essentially, no matter how far we have come in our development, we are still mammals. (let's do it like they do it on the Discovery channel, lol

This is why mcdonald's and burgerking are killing it. Lots of calories translates as "super delicious" to our humoral system. A lot like how smelling works. There aren't "bad" smells. There are just chemical substances that react with certain chemicals in our nasal system, which is transformed into certain electrical charges, which tickle certain neurons in our brain and we thing of a certain chemical substance smells "good" or "bad". It's just a complex electro-chemical reaction "grandfathered" from previous stages of our evolution.

Having said that, environment > genetics. And as we live in time of abundance (in the Western world, of course) you don't need that programming any more, because you are not facing the danger of not having what to eat in the next week or month. You don't need everything in one place. Mammals needed meat because of fat reserves and because they didn't exactly know what nutrition they needed. They just blindly guessed what is best(trial and error). We can deliver everything we need from other sources, rather from just one. And we can overcome the genetic programming and stop eating meat and be perfectly fine. From biochemistry's point of view, nothing will chance(if you really get EVERYTHING you need, which is not an easy job at all, like a lot of people are thinking). And you have the eastern way of eating where red meat is rarely consumed, and yet those Japanese folks are doing just fine, I hear.


That's all from scientific POV. I'm always up for a steak.

FWIW, I have 2 chemical educations, in general, and organic chemistry and can demonstrate everything with structural formulas, no one will understand, but that would be an overkill, I guess.

PS: Good point for the aliens though, have't thought of that ever.
 
How many of you would eat meat if you had to kill the animal yourselves, rather than buy it pre-packed from a shelf?

I already kill and butcher my own Deer, Duck, Geese, Pheasant, and Fish.

My Father and/or Grandfather usually kill and butcher Pork, Beef, Chicken, and Rabbit for me.
 
Stating your opinions as facts is pretty stupid. There are many different protein sources and many of those are not from meat. Most vegetarians add at least one protein source to each meal or otherwise they are doing it wrong... you will get anemia if you just eat pasta (lol).

Here is few sources listed: hxxp://www.marksdailyapple.com/top-ten-protein-sources/

And you don't lose your muscles in vegetarian diet if you eat right. For example Shaolin monks have been on vegetarian diet hundreds of years and are/were in pretty good shape. There are actually many vegetarian bodybuilders too.

Raw Food Vegan Bodybuilder cab driver eats no meat - YouTube
holy shit thanks i just spent the last hour watching vegan bodybuilder videos on youtube

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lol what a sick thinking. So you do believe all the vegetarians are weak and stupid than you guys who eats meat?

WTF how on the earth you can think that?

um..how?...how about those pointy teeth we ALL have for RIPPING APART FLESH?

you do believe in evolution right? looks like the weaklings with brontosaurus teeth didn't make the cut!

saturated fat is good for your brain, bro. look it up. vegatarianism is for cows. makes good rib eyes.
 
How many of you would eat meat if you had to kill the animal yourselves, rather than buy it pre-packed from a shelf?

the best meat you will ever taste is the meat you hunt yourself. you can pick arugula all day long behind your henna tattoo/patchouli oil shop and you will never feel as in tune with nature as when you quarter your kill and feed your family for a month. nor as manly. and yes, i know that is a dirty word, so flame away faggots.
 
You couldn't be more wrong here. Meat products are actually pretty expensive compared to other foods. Around here a nice cut of steak costs around $14-16 a pound. Americans are not fat because meat/meat products are "tasty and cheap." Americans are fat because they would rather go buy 3 big macs or a large pizza than cooking a healthy meal for themselves.
You couldn't be more wrong here Jeffrey; US cattle is mostly fed CORN... Which cows did not evolve eating. (Because corn was subsidized and is cheaper than grass.)

This does make for a fatty steak though, so it certainly adds to the whole US human waistline issue.

Demand grass-fed beef, bros.


BradleyT2p2; that doc was awesome. Thanks for the share.