mind-fuckery award of the day goes to...

The visualization is easy. The math is hard.

Several years of advanced physics I'm trying really hard to forget.

The thing that fucks really hard with me is the idea of traveling slows down time. when i see you moving at my speed of time, and you see me moving at your speed of time, yet they are separate, theres gotta be some 'give' in there, in some weird dimension that i just cant perceive with my non physics minded brain

fucking ill, but I really just don't grasp it fully. I only see glimpses of it. I read brian green's book too which was pretty thorough and intense, but good. I never finished it
 


One of the big problems with all the "universe" theories is they really can't explain why gravity isn't stronger. To explain it they've invented something called dark matter that you can't see/measure/etc...

To explain that they've added in multiple universes and/or dimensions. Last time I really gave a shit we could prove something like 11 dimensions with math. Probably they are up to more.

Understanding the time dilation is pretty simple. I explained to my kids like this:

Einstein’s “Theory of Relativity.” One of the things this theory states is that “time” is relative to ones motion and also to the amount of gravity exerted on one. Means how you experience time is purely based on your speed and the amount of force gravity is exerting on you.

The concept is simple........... mass bends space. That's gravity. Like your standing on a trampoline. (you only experience time when you are in motion). Everything spins around the fattest "guy" on the trampoline. He also effects your ability to jump higher because he sucks up most of the energy on the trampoline. Means your "time" in the air is being affected by another force.

If you run REALLY fast around the trampoline while on the ground you are aren't going around the bends like the guys on the trampoline. You looking at the guys barely jumping on the trampoline would seem in slow motion....

Scale that up to almost the speed of light and it's no longer an illusion but a reality. You would be experiencing time at a different rate.

I've always suspected that we will find that gravity is an effect of space bending - but not a force from our universe (why it's weak). Space bends and becomes closer to something else (another universe, dimension, etc..) and that's what exerts the force.
 
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I like string.

I don't think it will go anywhere. Everything I've read in the last 5 years or so seems to suggest they are still making shit up to make it (still not) work.

Name me one other complex thing that can be explained by one formula... I can't.

I read somewhere that they were considering the fact that the universe and it's "laws" are different in different areas and actually change or evolve as a pretty neat theory that I'd like to see more on.
 
One of the big problems with all the "universe" theories is they really can't explain why gravity isn't stronger. To explain it they've invented something called dark matter that you can't see/measure/etc...

To explain that they've added in multiple universes and/or dimensions. Last time I really gave a shit we could prove something like 11 dimensions with math. Probably they are up to more.

Understanding the time dilation is pretty simple. I explained to my kids like this:

Einstein’s “Theory of Relativity.” One of the things this theory states is that “time” is relative to ones motion and also to the amount of gravity exerted on one. Means how you experience time is purely based on your speed and the amount of force gravity is exerting on you.

The concept is simple........... mass bends space. That's gravity. Like your standing on a trampoline. (you only experience time when you are in motion). Everything spins around the fattest "guy" on the trampoline. He also effects your ability to jump higher because he sucks up most of the energy on the trampoline. Means your "time" in the air is being affected by another force.

If you run REALLY fast around the trampoline while on the ground you are aren't going around the bends like the guys on the trampoline. You looking at the guys barely jumping on the trampoline would seem in slow motion....

Scale that up to almost the speed of light and it's no longer an illusion but a reality. You would be experiencing time at a different rate.

I've always suspected that we will find that gravity is an effect of space bending - but not a force from our universe (why it's weak). Space bends and becomes closer to something else (another universe, dimension, etc..) and that's what exerts the force.


Wow, that's deep :bowdown:
 
I just did a lab on dark matter and galaxy clusters. A lot of the theories we have right now are just from pure observation from here on earth. I think to figure out what causes cluster's to be hella more massive than they appear, we gotta find a way to actually measure properties in other ways besides the luminosity of stars. Cause I mean not everything shines.

I hope matt contributes to this thread with one of his insightful graphs.
 
Headache? Not really. The answers are known. God created everything in existence.


lol wat

Whether you believe in God or that the earth was created without a God (I won't post what I think here so as to not take the thread in an entirely different direction), you have to ask yourself this:

Where did God, and/or that first material that was created come from?

How did particles, atoms, matter, etc... come about?

And how did it get so complex as to create us, communicating to each other across the world asking each other these questions?

You might believe that in the very beginning of time, there was nothing . . . but if there was nothing at that point in time, how did nothing become something?
 
It's more like we think we are real smart and are figuring out the answers to everything. Here is some science shit doesn't make sense and never gets called out.

1.) Observing quantum events changes what they are doing. Same thing that happens when we try to observer animals - our presence changes their behavior.

2.) We should accept that a molecule can be in two places at once.... ie here and across the the other side of earth at the same time. See number one while you try to figure out how the fuck we know that for sure.

3.) We base most of our "theories" on invisible things we can't see, measure, or prove with out making up more invisible things :)

4.) Labrador Retrievers have puppies that are all 4 colors (yellow, brown, black, and white) from the same litter. How fucked up is that?
 
Gotta love WF.
There's always some rocket scientist hiding to explain it all. :D

Don't get me wrong, I was interested in what you had to say!
 
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One of the big problems with all the "universe" theories is they really can't explain why gravity isn't stronger. To explain it they've invented something called dark matter that you can't see/measure/etc...

To explain that they've added in multiple universes and/or dimensions. Last time I really gave a shit we could prove something like 11 dimensions with math. Probably they are up to more.

There are a lot of concepts that start out this way and end up being fundamental. Take Energy, for example. It didn't exist as a concept until the late nineteenth century, and now its conservation is one of the few fundamental laws that spans scientific disciplines. You can't "see" it, per-se, but that doesn't mean it lacks ontology.

Fields are another example. In the beginning, Electricity and Magnetism were explained chiefly through forces, then investigators (Faraday, and later Maxwell) realized that there was something more fundamental than the observable forces, and that this field could do a better job explaining what was going on. It wasn't long before they started to realize that these fields carried and stored energy, that even light was in some sense a perturbation in these fields.

These days, Quantum Field Theory views fields as having ultimate primacy, and particles merely as excitations in the fields themselves.

I just did a lab on dark matter and galaxy clusters. A lot of the theories we have right now are just from pure observation from here on earth. I think to figure out what causes cluster's to be hella more massive than they appear, we gotta find a way to actually measure properties in other ways besides the luminosity of stars. Cause I mean not everything shines.

You can observe dark matter concentrations using Gravitational Lensing. Even though dark matter doesn't interact with light directly, its mass still warps space-time, curving the paths of light in space. This way, you can look for images of clusters and stars in the sky created by dark matter lenses and get a handle on some of the properties these dark matter concentrations might have. There are other experiments looking for dark matter as well, like the Sudan Mine detector in Minnesota.

Observing quantum events changes what they are doing. Same thing that happens when we try to observer animals - our presence changes their behavior.

This is the Copenhagen interpretation which gained widespread traction in the last half of the century, mostly because people like to use it to justify their bullshit mysticism. A new interpretation, Decoherence, may solve a lot of these problems. It turns out that the interaction of quantum systems with their external environments probably explains why they settle into particular states. It doesn't require some sort of special observation for the states to change.

We should accept that a molecule can be in two places at once.... ie here and across the the other side of earth at the same time. See number one while you try to figure out how the fuck we know that for sure.
Sort of. Localization isn't the same in quantum as it is in classical physics.

We base most of our "theories" on invisible things we can't see, measure, or prove with out making up more invisible things
This is true if you're just talking String Theory, but if you're talking about Quantum Field Theory, or Condensed Matter Theory, or virtually anything else, I don't think its justified.
 
Hmmm.....................


This is today right?

Yesterday was yesterday and tomorrow will be tomorrow correct?

Well today was tomorrow yesterday and today will be yesterday tomorrow.

Yesterday was today and tomorrow will be today.

What was will be and what will be was before.

Could Déjà vu be nothing more than our mind's perception of events in time that we have experienced in similar situations and then for some reason it decides to extrapolate this previous data and apply it to present events with an expectation of a sequential outcome in the immediate future during the Déjà vu event?

Lulz