Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight

1) transponder disabled, either intentionally or by explosion
Click to expand...

Disregarding the transponder:
1. Planes show up on radar.
2. Planes have GPS capability(little in-flight location screens)
3. Planes have radios to talk to people on the ground

If the plane isn't showing on radar, there's no GPS info and no radio contact: Draw the simple conclusion.

Magical and mysterious.
 


Cath Erder said:
Disregarding the transponder:
1. Planes show up on radar.
2. Planes have GPS capability(little in-flight location screens)
3. Planes have radios to talk to people on the ground

If the plane isn't showing on radar, there's no GPS info and no radio contact: Draw the simple conclusion.

Magical and mysterious.
Click to expand...

hence: explosion, right? nothing to indicate otherwise, except the absense of debris. thus, the only tiniest bit of question. 99% sure, only tidbits to wrap up. no magic, no mystery.
 
No.

Plane being incommunicado means it isn't showing on radar or GPS and the crew isn't able to communicate. Nothing more.

Why? Don't know.
Explosion or a variation is a reasonable guess, but catastrophic component failure could produce the same effective result. It's a hard thing when there's an event that appears to have cost lives to that extent.
 
Cath Erder said:
No.

Plane being incommunicado means it isn't showing on radar or GPS and the crew isn't able to communicate. Nothing more.

Why? Don't know.
Explosion or a variation is a reasonable guess, but catastrophic component failure could produce the same effective result. It's a hard thing when there's an event that appears to have cost lives to that extent.
Click to expand...

hard thing or not, we can definitively say there was a failure, and that is the primary question everyone wants answered, right? that the plane went down? we can theorize like monks, but let's agree that the flight was lost. some might dispute that.
 
An Iranian man bought two tickets for two stolen passports and one of the guys were black. It could easily be terrorism, but since the tickets were bought in Pattaya and they were going to Amsterdam and Copenhagen, it could also just be drug mules or illegal immigrants.

It seems strange that there is no distress signal though.
 
rusvik said:
An Iranian man bought two tickets for two stolen passports and one of the guys were black. It could easily be terrorism, but since the tickets were bought in Pattaya and they were going to Amsterdam and Copenhagen, it could also just be drug mules or illegal immigrants.

It seems strange that there is no distress signal though.
Click to expand...

Planes have torn apart mid flight due to catastrophic failure, etc. If you're doing 600mph at 35,000 feet and a wing comes off, the plane is going to go out of control and almost instantly shred to pieces before a pilot could do anything.

I find it weird thinking about these kinds of things. It must be pretty chilling to be on a flight at 35,000 feet, plane fall apart and you get free from the plane (alive). You'd acknowledge you were going to die, then black out, and likely come back into consciousness at about 10-15,000 feet to fall to your inevitable death over a couple of minutes. It must be horrendous. I wonder how many people come to terms with it / accept it during their fall.
 
mituozo said:
You'd acknowledge you were going to die, then black out, and likely come back into consciousness at about 10-15,000 feet to fall to your inevitable death over a couple of minutes. It must be horrendous. I wonder how many people come to terms with it / accept it during their fall.
Click to expand...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2xmAWS4akE]Crazy Wingsuit Flight -- Man Lands on Water Without Parachute (WORLD'S FIRST) - YouTube[/ame]
 
I read today the plane is one of the best there is, and there is "no way it would fail" at least without some communication coming back. I'm going with the ET angle. Think about it, so much more efficient than beaming people one at a time from their room/car...
 
The Bermuda triangle is now known as the Riau Triangle. You heard it on WF.

m90KEkJ.png
 
The strangest part of this is that they haven't found any large debris that could be traced back to the plane. If a plane breaks apart in flight, shit's gonna fall to earth. If a plane hits the ocean at speed, there's going to be a ton of debris scattered over a large area.

However if a plane is able to make a controlled ditch into the ocean and lands at a slower, controlled speed, it could remain relatively intact I would imagine. Just look at the Hudson landing. So if it lands in one piece more or less, eventually it's going to sink in one piece. This wouldn't leave much of a debris field on the ocean. Hence the reason nobody can find the damn thing.

However if this is what happened, why were no distress calls made? Why don't they have it's last known position? Why didn't people get off the plane once it was sitting in the ocean?
 
efeezy said:
The strangest part of this is that they haven't found any large debris that could be traced back to the plane. If a plane breaks apart in flight, shit's gonna fall to earth. If a plane hits the ocean at speed, there's going to be a ton of debris scattered over a large area.

However if a plane is able to make a controlled ditch into the ocean and lands at a slower, controlled speed, it could remain relatively intact I would imagine. Just look at the Hudson landing. So if it lands in one piece more or less, eventually it's going to sink in one piece. This wouldn't leave much of a debris field on the ocean. Hence the reason nobody can find the damn thing.

However if this is what happened, why were no distress calls made? Why don't they have it's last known position? Why didn't people get off the plane once it was sitting in the ocean?
Click to expand...

What if a bomb exploded at 10 000 meters aka 35 000 feet? The explosion would destroy a substantial amount of the plane, and because of the strong winds at that altitude(100km+ an hour) they are scattered across a large area but are not big enough to be noticeable. I think there were multiple explosions, two or three wouldn't leave much behind.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
 
soulravager said:
What if a bomb exploded at 10 000 meters aka 35 000 feet? The explosion would destroy a substantial amount of the plane, and because of the strong winds at that altitude(100km+ an hour) they are scattered across a large area but are not big enough to be noticeable. I think there were multiple explosions, two or three wouldn't leave much behind.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

I don't know. I think even an explosion(s) at that altitude would still rain down a ton of debris and parts into the ocean. Pieces of wing and all sorts of stuff would float and some of it would have been found by now, even if it was hundreds of miles from where the plain actually blew up.
 
The story on Yahoo news of it changing course, flying low and only visible to military radar really makes this look like a stolen plane.

If it is a stolen plane and there are no ransom demands... why did they need the plane and what is it going to be used for?

Also, you mean to tell me 200 people didnt try to fight off the 2 or 3 terrorists after 9/11?
 
The bomb would have to be huge.

It is the world's largest twinjet and has a typical seating capacity for 314 to 451 passengers, with a range of 5,235 to 9,380 nautical miles (9,695 to 17,372 km).
Click to expand...
- Wikipedia

1.) If it was a bomb, there is a chance the size of the bomb needed could have been noticed on detonation. Plus, the amount of fuel it had with it, would have caused a huge fireball, inevitably creating debris. It's tough to estimate whether or not material from the explosion would make it to Earth or dissipate on entry.

2.) Lots of planes go out of connection over large bodies of water, it's quite normal. Radar can only do about 150 miles from land, and GPS unfortunately is limited by costly data transfer and insanely different types of plane hardware and software, which causes the delay.

In my opinion, I believe it's in the jungle. Those areas are dense, and could easily hide a plane that large for some time, and if the conditions are right, it could also keep smoke and fire from being exposed.

So yeah, this:
lost-smoke-monster-cerberus-esau.jpg
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom