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lukep said:
I dunno, you'll be challenge by yourself... Add in 7 others and I might have a real challenge converting you all in one night... :thumbsup:
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lol.

Have you seen the posters on this forum? Highly unlikely we've evolved amigo. :D
 
guerilla said:
Please tell me you don't believe in evolution.

Also, nice to see you outside a Ron Paul thread.
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HAHAHA beautiful.

Also agree, thanks MST the Illinois coin I did not know about.....
The marble one, eh I gotta see that one...
 
There are, I believe, 11 parts to this video series. Enjoy!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJeWql4Na8]Richard C Hoagland - The UN Briefing & the Terrestrial Connection - Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]
 
JerseyJoe said:
curious on how many in this thread have studied evolution. and i do mean studied; not read about a book and called it a day.
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Forget about reading a book, many of the more opinionated people on the internet about evolution or global warming, haven't even read the wikipedia entries or something equivalent to that, and sometimes don't even have a 6th grade level understanding of those topics.


If aliens interfered with humans, that doesn't negate evolution. Humans have greatly changed the look of dogs in a relative short amount of years - that doesn't impact dogs descending from wolves.
 
Moxie said:
If aliens interfered with humans, that doesn't negate evolution. Humans have greatly changed the look of dogs in a relative short amount of years - that doesn't impact dogs descending from wolves.
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Exactly. What it does do is redefine our understanding of intelligent design and argue against evolution as the sole mechanism of biological development. Evolutionists disclaiming intelligent design often jump directly to traditional notions of the divine and theology as the objects of their criticism and do not consider that 'god' might not be the only intelligent designer of life. And that ancient cultures may have used the words 'god' and 'gods' to refer to intelligent designers so advanced as to appear godlike to them.
 
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MSTeacher said:
What it does do is redefine our understanding of intelligent design and argue against evolution as the sole mechanism of biological development. Evolutionists disclaiming intelligent design often jump directly to traditional notions of the divine and theology as the objects of their criticism and do not consider that 'god' might not be the only intelligent designer of life. And that ancient cultures may have used the words 'god' and 'gods' to refer to intelligent designers so advanced as to appear godlike to them.
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I've got no problem at all thinking that it's possible aliens seeded us at some point early in the animal kingdom's development. I kinda doubt it since we can create life in a lab, but it's not impossible, I agree.

What I DO have a problem with is the meddling with aliens or gods or Qs or time travelers or anything else between the first mammals and today... We've got a beautiful record of progression from one critter to the next all the way up to ourselves, spanning 100 million years or more...

It just makes sense, that's all... Occam's razor boys, occam's razor. There's no need for ET meddling when we would obviously evolve this way from shrew-like critters over 100 million years.
 
wiredniko said:
There is a higher chance that we are all part of a computer simulation.
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Just Like The Movie Matrix?



guerilla said:
Not sure why that would be true. You'd need to have knowledge of much more of the galaxy and perhaps the universe to disqualify the ancient alien ideas.

Like,

"That's not possible, because the next nearest spacefaring intelligent species is 500 million light years away, but they do not yet possess light speed travel"

The truth is our galaxy may be beyond our meaningful comprehension, and the universe is populated with a great many more galaxies. We simply don't know what is out there.
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Yes We Don't know what is out there Universe is to Vast That's the beauty of God's Creation. . . .Now if that's the work of an Alien Where are they now? I mean the Alien where are they? Hiding?
 
lukep said:
I've got no problem at all thinking that it's possible aliens seeded us at some point early in the animal kingdom's development. I kinda doubt it since we can create life in a lab, but it's not impossible, I agree.
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So because we can create life in a lab, some other species couldn't?

lukep said:
We've got a beautiful record of progression from one critter to the next all the way up to ourselves, spanning 100 million years or more...
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That's the point. We don't. There is no missing link. We can dig up more dinosaur bones and ancient crustaceans than we can pre-humans. Why is that?

How is it that we're so unique among all of the species on this planet, that we have very little physical variation within the species, and yet a high degree of inter-species differentiation? The gap from man to monkey is enormous. Why is that?
 
SEO_Over said:
Now if that's the work of an Alien Where are they now? I mean the Alien where are they? Hiding?
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They are hiding with God. ;)

There are possibly 400 billion solar systems in this galaxy, and many more galaxies in the universe. There are a lot of places aliens could be, and considering we can't even do a manned mission to another planet in our solar system, it's not like we're going to bump into them, or that they would see us as more than monkeys or ants if they had the technology to travel long distances.
 
lukep said:
We've got a beautiful record of progression from one critter to the next all the way up to ourselves, spanning 100 million years or more...
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lolwut

Occam's razor boys, occam's razor. There's no need for ET meddling when we would obviously evolve this way from shrew-like critters over 100 million years.
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I don't know how you can possibly consider that 100 million years of evolution making us exactly who we are today is obvious.

Occam's razor is a principle urging one to select among competing hypotheses that which makes the fewest assumptions and thereby offers the simplest explanation of the effect.
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So let's see here. Universe contains hundreds of billions of galaxies, each with hundreds of billions of stars, and is billions of years old. It's taken us a cosmic blink of the eye to go from stone tablets to space exploration. We breed animals, manipulate genes, and alter the course of evolution all day long. Even our scrawny historical record is overflowing with evidence of et. And the freaking human genome project has basically said that half of our genomic sequences are not terrestrial. From that perspective I venture it takes more assumptions to hypothesize no alien intervention in the natural evolution of life here on earth than it does to hypothesize the contrary.

guerilla said:
There are possibly 400 billion solar systems in this galaxy, and many more galaxies in the universe. There are a lot of places aliens could be, and considering we can't even do a manned mission to another planet in our solar system, it's not like we're going to bump into them, or that they would see us as more than monkeys or ants if they had the technology to travel long distances.
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edit ^^^yeah what he said
 
"We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach.

If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn't turn out very well for the Native Americans."

- Stephen Hawking
 
Moxie said:
Forget about reading a book, many of the more opinionated people on the internet about evolution or global warming, haven't even read the wikipedia entries or something equivalent to that, and sometimes don't even have a 6th grade level understanding of those topics.
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exactly. evolution is the single most complicated and extensive realm in biological studies imo and the average layman has an opinion on it or discredits it for x reason despite not having a fucking clue. it'd be humorous if it wasn't so pathetic.
 
MSTeacher said:
Evolutionists disclaiming intelligent design often jump directly to traditional notions of the divine and theology as the objects of their criticism
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"evolutionists" getting into debates about intelligent design or whichever flavor of the day it is displayed as are moronic. science operates within the natural realm. theories (and i'm being generous by calling them that) and untestable proposals fall outside that realm. it's an argument science can't win.
 
guerilla said:
There is no missing link.
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i'm surprised that you approach SEO in manner consistent with the scientific process yet that process is nowhere to be found in your position on this topic. the fact that you're asking this question shows you're uneducated on this topic
How is it that we're so unique among all of the species on this planet
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protip: we're not
The gap from man to monkey is enormous.
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no it isn't and it's chimpanzee. monkeys != chimpanzees
 
JerseyJoe said:
i'm surprised that you approach SEO in manner consistent with the scientific process yet that process is nowhere to be found in your position on this topic. the fact that you're asking this question shows you're uneducated on this topic
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Read this again, and ask yourself if you have added anything meaningful to the discussion beyond your assertions about me personally (absent the facts of the discussion).

It's this sort of lazy arguing that is rife online particularly where people do not like seeing their belief system challenged.

You should be ashamed of yourself. But I suspect you're not capable of it, or you would not have written that in the first place.

JerseyJoe said:
protip: we're not no it isn't and it's chimpanzee. monkeys != chimpanzees
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Uhm yes we are, and the type or name of the monkey is irrelevant to my point.
 
guerilla said:
Read this again, and ask yourself if you have added anything meaningful to the discussion beyond your assertions about me personally (absent the facts of the discussion).

It's this sort of lazy arguing that is rife online particularly where people do not like seeing their belief system challenged.

You should be ashamed of yourself. But I suspect you're not capable of it, or you would not have written that in the first place.
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3 paragraphs of basically nothing. not surprising given the fact you don't have the slightest clue as to where you're going wrong in your evaluation of the topic. the lack of knowledge on this topic is very evident to anyone having an even intermediate understanding of evolution, speciation, and biology in general.

you, and the others who agree with your ideas have spent the thread proposing arguments not based in science, evidence, scientific process, or anything resembling good logical thought. the arguments against evolution presented here are no different that the religious arguments presented favoring intelligent design or creationism. i'm genuinely disheartened that someone with your skills and knowledge and approach to SEO would do such a 180 on an incredibly complex topic, as is evidenced by statements like this:

Uhm yes we are, and the type or name of the monkey is irrelevant to my point.
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