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Whats your 'good' ctr?
Suggested bids dont mean shit.
btw, I cloned your ad, saturated your demo, thanks for the monies, good luck bros.
I did more reading and found the problem. It was a male dating ad and apparently facebook instantly slaps random male dating campaigns with zero impressions. The impressions instantly went up as soon as I took "single" out of my parameters but obviously ctr fell to shit.
I fucking hate facebook. If only everything were to work like it was supposed to, i would have a really profitable campaign ...
I dont think so.
The reason your impressions went up is because putting 'Single' is required by FB for dating ads, so that means your ad up against all the other dating ads, which is a really competitive niche, so the bids are really high. Taking 'Single' out would reduce the min bid required by at least half or two thirds for that reason. Suggested bids for dating ads are particularly off, you need to bid much higher then the suggested bid.
If you snuck a dating ad through without specifying "Single' good for you. thats actually a nice little trick.
A ctr required to significantly reduce your bid is now much higher then it was 6-9 months ago, especially for dating.
Yea but the thing is they don't even really give your ad a chance. Even if it's the cream of the crop fb never gave it a chance in this competitive demo. My ctr is .25 . It WAS .31 which from what I understand is good for a big demo.
I assumed the slapping was going on from Imagesandwords's post here http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate...ok-sugegsted-bids-impressions.html#post607029
Lets try some maths.
Looking at Facebook ads right now, targeting 30-40 year old males in the US, who are Single and interested in females I get 955,480. Lets says that a million.
Lets say in a particular hour 1 in 20 out of those logs in to Facebook. Thats 50,000.
Lets say there is 200 ads targeting that demographic. Or campaigns or whatever, ignoring that many campaigns have dozens of ads in them and many of us have multiple accounts etc...
50,000/200 -> 250.
Lets say each of the above single males views 4 pages while logged in, so thats 1000 impressions per ad per hour, if ads were spread out evenly among bidders.
No need for conspiracies. Many more things to take into account, like that impressions are not spread out evenly and there are probably far more then 200 ads competing for the space and time of day makes a difference etc etc
Looking at Facebook ads right now, targeting 30-40 year old males in the US, who are Single and interested in females I get 955,480. Lets says that a million.
Lets say in a particular hour 1 in 20 out of those logs in to Facebook. Thats 50,000.
Lets say there is 200 ads targeting that demographic. Or campaigns or whatever, ignoring that many campaigns have dozens of ads in them and many of us have multiple accounts etc...
50,000/200 -> 250.
Lets say each of the above single males views 4 pages while logged in, so thats 1000 impressions per ad per hour, if ads were spread out evenly among bidders.
No need for conspiracies. Many more things to take into account, like that impressions are not spread out evenly and there are probably far more then 200 ads competing for the space and time of day makes a difference etc etc
do any of you come up with your own ideas or do you just wait for others to do something creative and then rip off their ideas.. I find it hilarious that every idea i've come up within my brief 6 months of ppc marketing has been ripped and raped to oblivion.. I also find it funny that you can do something like that and feel 'successful'.. If i had to rip off someone else's ideas to be successful i'd feel like a scumbag.. but thats just me.. It'd be really awesome to always have to rely on someone elses brain to get paid.. You'll def expand financially with that mindset..
nope, i've been riding your coattails for the past six months sucka
keep churning out those golden nuggets for me to rip
please and thank you
actually, here's another answer, this one directly from facebook (taken from another forum), in response to whether they 'throttle' dating ads:
hmm, didn't know that, but gives you an answer, with everyone ripping off each others dating ads, using a permutation of basically about 5 ad variations, pushing the same offers etc
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Okay I need help - how are you guys tracking your FB stuff? Because I use FB Ads Manager to throw up 100s at a time, so I am tracking ads individually per sub id, but without any automated tracking it becomes difficult to decide in cases like "Higher CTR, lower CVR ad" vs "Lower CTR, higher CVR ad" to decide without spending 2 hours in Excel.
Why I am not using P202? It just does not seem very well suited to Facebook. Obviously manually recreating 100s of ads and giving each one an unique tracking link is retarded and impossible. And while I could pass the subids generated by the Ads manager as keywords, a) 202 operates based on unique subids (while in reality different FB campaigns might all have subids each from 1 to 100 etc) and b) I could not individually update CPC costs for keywords/ad subids.
Any advice?
Why I am not using P202? It just does not seem very well suited to Facebook. Obviously manually recreating 100s of ads and giving each one an unique tracking link is retarded and impossible. And while I could pass the subids generated by the Ads manager as keywords, a) 202 operates based on unique subids (while in reality different FB campaigns might all have subids each from 1 to 100 etc) and b) I could not individually update CPC costs for keywords/ad subids.
Any advice?
