I have one question.
If right now I traded your dick with a vagina would you automatically make me a sandwich?
No More Mr. Nice Guy
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I have one question.
If right now I traded your dick with a vagina would you automatically make me a sandwich?
So what? Why does that matter. What you explained is a bit like the guys who say "She was provoking me, so I raped her". The first might be true. It doesn't justify the latter.
Also, what does treating people with respect have to do with creating artificial 'equality' and then imposing it via legislation? Me no comprende...
Again, so what? Most people, boys or girls, get their spirit broken by a system designed to domesticate them into obedient wage slaves. The fact that you teach your kids they can rule the world is awesome, but I don't see how that has one iota to do with feminism.
uuuu.... how is this different for men? Both men and women get their spirit crushed in a system designed to do exactly that. Some people escape it. Again, I don't see how that should be called feminism.
Fighting for a better world, for respect and fairness should have NOTHING to do with race, religion or sex. NOTHING.
How is this different from men being portrayed as incompetent on pretty much all TV? And you are using an example that is over 30 years old.
And if a kid is skinny and wears glasses they will assume he is bad a sports. Steoreotypes exists. Not just for women. Get over it.
Uuuuggg, double standards exist for everyone. Mostly it benefits the wealthy vs the poor. So why aren't you defending the poor?
Like most bullshit, your post contains a lot of truth, and then comes up with un-related conclusions. Reminds me of those who talk about the evils of drugs and then say 'that is why they should be illegal'. As if their 'solution' would solve the problem or even address it.
Nah man, I'd be ridding you with a strapon dick the way you like it. Then I'd ask you for a sandwich in the name of equality.
BTW, awesome come back, I haven't heard such eloquence and logic since grade school. Your ability to articulate your reasoning shall be the envy of many a person in 2505.
It's a waste of energy and it serves no purpose.
It gets you in the mentality that you have to fight and conquer instead of working together with people.
It generates us vs them mentality which leads to all kinds of negative emotions that ultimately only serve in unbalancing your life.
I understand fighting for a cause you consider just but getting all riled up in a forum is the equivalent of getting really angry while you are driving.
You just lose.
You wouldn't necessarily know if you were approval seeking or not, just saying.
I do too - but, and I know this is cliche at this point, do you think entitled and empowered women (thanks to feminism - maybe) like Kim Kardashian should be treated with respect?
These aren't mutually exclusive.
No hate at all, in fact I think my motives for starting this thread were majorly misunderstood. I found the book thought provoking for many reasons, so I thought I'd post it - got hijacked by anti-feminists who raised some interesting points though.
Or you will become their bitch. Definitely an alternate possibility.
Perhaps it serves a purpose you don't see or desire. Don't be so quick to impose what you think is valuable as a standard for everyone else to conform to.
Most people don't care about you. They aren't going to hold your hand or wait forever for you. Life goes on. It is brutal and short. You're guaranteed nothing.
The most successful people in the world are usually involved in something competitive. Competing for roles, for people to listen, for votes, for money, for athletic success.
Greenleaves and I don't always agree, and frankly, I could give two shits about gender issues, but he is right on with like 90% of what he's posted. In fact, one of this last couple posts was one of the most subtle but brilliant libertarian posts I have ever read here.
I think the gap between you and Greenleaves is that your social conscience costs you nothing. If he had your social conscience as a business owner, it could be dear to afford.
In a store I used to work at, part of the business was computer repair. The repair guy was an 18-year-old waddling fatso who had zero hope with females. When the subject of women was brought up, he seemed to have plenty to say - men are better than women, he didn't want to have to answer to some bitch, alpha this and that blah blah blah. He seemed like an unlikely person to have developed such an attitude. It definitely wasn't based on any real world experience. It was just shit he read from blogs and forums.
Valid point. In all actuality I tend to not express my opinions on a lot of matters because my perceptions are different than the status quo (with some exceptions of course). I do not abide to any ideology with fanaticism.
This is actually the first time ever that I have expressed my "feminist" ideas to anyone. So maybe I am like super stealth attention seeking and not even telling women but I kind of doubt it.
I do not dislike Kim Karashian because she is a female. I dislike her because she has no substance. I judge people based on their character.
And to make something abundantly clear, I dislike militant feminists (all men are pigs, men are weak etc) as much as I dislike chauvinists. I basically dislike sexism from either side.
I apologize, I voiced my opinion because I always see responses like this on various forums so for once I decided to express my thoughts.
Heh, anyway, life is fascinating. We all can watch the same event...or in this case live in the Western "civilized" world and totally interpret things differently. That alone to me is beautiful
...hijack over.
I just want to make a clarification. I actually do not want to impose my ideas on everyone.
Note that I did not advocate creating laws to protect people, which is one of the reasons why I did really address the "create laws" comment that he made.
Do I like his attitude? I don't, but I do not want to force him to do anything. I was just presenting an alternative thought process.
In terms of competition I do agree with your perspective and I do think that I am too socio-politically apathetic...which is probably a personality flaw.
If you are willing please share with me your ideas. I have always found your political perspective fascinating. I believe you are more of an anarchist than a libertarian (the conservative definition).
You posted once about a book that affected you a lot...actually I think you said you wanted to be like the main character in it, it was called The Driver. I actually bought that book because you talked about it....I have not read it yet, it's part of my to-read list.
Im sure what you all have to say is important, and I'm gonna let ya'll finish, but did anyone else read that and realise that none of the examples applied to them?
The world is an easier place because it is full of beta pussies that need validation all day.
I suppose no ballers are posting in this thread, because I fail to see how a ruthless business mindset could also harbor such neediness when it comes to relationships.
Remind me to kill myself if I ever end up feeling like this ebook applies to my life.
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The world is an easier place because it is full of beta pussies that need validation all day.
I suppose no ballers are posting in this thread, because I fail to see how a ruthless business mindset could also harbor such neediness when it comes to relationships.
Remind me to kill myself if I ever end up feeling like this ebook applies to my life.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4TtIG3SBOE]Girlfriend humiliates boyfriend in public, slapping him over and over! - YouTube[/ame]
Just to be clear; I believe in equality (so same compensation to performance, same risk, same credentials (which in the real world will never happen)), that women should have the right to vote, own property, start a business, etc.
I believe this not because of a belief in feminism but because I believe people should try to fulfill their full potential and have no legal impediments to doing so. The persuit of hapiness and all.
I dislike silly discrimination, from guys who think a woman is useless to people who think there should be unique legislation designed to help women/blacks/other interest groups. Any legislation in so far as it has to exist, should be universal, applying to everyone just ths same. Equality before the law and such.
There are different forms of feminis, ranging from what seems to me silly, all the way to the criminal.
To me a benign form of femisim is the ideological form, which says, men and women are equal. To me this is silly since Men are not equal to each other, so how can women be. And I'm not talking about race/age/sex/religion. I'm saying men are different, every last one of them. Equal before the law, yes, or so we should be. But us humans are a very diverse bunch.
To quote Jon, and I'm paraphrasing: "Everyone is born equal. But that is where it ends." (sorry Jon if I misquoted you)
A really nasty form of feminism is that which uses politics to impose on others. Hire X% of women, or else type of thing.
Or the worst are those who wish to get for women more rights than men have (proponderance of evidence against men in family law and violence against women instead of using burden of proof)
Sure I get angry. But that is natural. You should try it. It is healthy. Men and women aren't designed to be always happy, always singing, always equal creatures.
We are humans. We get angry, sad, happy. We are different. We have unique qualities that complement each other.
BTW, if thanks to feminism you bring your daughters up with confidence, then I'd have to say feminism was a good thing for you. I hope they dare to dream and work hard to bring it to fruition.
I believe this not because of a belief in feminism but because I believe people should try to fulfill their full potential and have no legal impediments to doing so. The persuit of hapiness and all.
I dislike silly discrimination, from guys who think a woman is useless to people who think there should be unique legislation designed to help women/blacks/other interest groups. Any legislation in so far as it has to exist, should be universal, applying to everyone just ths same. Equality before the law and such.
There are different forms of feminis, ranging from what seems to me silly, all the way to the criminal.
To me a benign form of femisim is the ideological form, which says, men and women are equal. To me this is silly since Men are not equal to each other, so how can women be. And I'm not talking about race/age/sex/religion. I'm saying men are different, every last one of them. Equal before the law, yes, or so we should be. But us humans are a very diverse bunch.
To quote Jon, and I'm paraphrasing: "Everyone is born equal. But that is where it ends." (sorry Jon if I misquoted you)
A really nasty form of feminism is that which uses politics to impose on others. Hire X% of women, or else type of thing.
Or the worst are those who wish to get for women more rights than men have (proponderance of evidence against men in family law and violence against women instead of using burden of proof)
Sure I get angry. But that is natural. You should try it. It is healthy. Men and women aren't designed to be always happy, always singing, always equal creatures.
We are humans. We get angry, sad, happy. We are different. We have unique qualities that complement each other.
BTW, if thanks to feminism you bring your daughters up with confidence, then I'd have to say feminism was a good thing for you. I hope they dare to dream and work hard to bring it to fruition.
You can be happy or unhappy regardless of your experience because happiness is a state of mind, and not dependent on material reality.
Examples include people who like being beaten, whipped and pissed on.
And people who are very wealthy, healthy, good looking and hate life.
@Wiredniko,
Girls are constantly told they can be anything and everything they want. In fact if a woman chooses to push herself she can do very well. Regardless, most women don't. Which is fine, most women would rather have a low stress job. But lets not try to pretend that women are prevented from doing well.
Example(just saw this)-
Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency | Naked Security
3 Job offers just because she was an attractive women.
I have no issue with women doing what they want to do with their life as long as they don't expect special treatment or complain about bullshit. I have great respect for excellent business people, no matter what their gender.
Girls are constantly told they can be anything and everything they want. In fact if a woman chooses to push herself she can do very well. Regardless, most women don't. Which is fine, most women would rather have a low stress job. But lets not try to pretend that women are prevented from doing well.
Example(just saw this)-
Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency | Naked Security
3 Job offers just because she was an attractive women.
I have no issue with women doing what they want to do with their life as long as they don't expect special treatment or complain about bullshit. I have great respect for excellent business people, no matter what their gender.
No, I am not the reason why feminism exists. Ironically, YOU with your " muh patriarchy muh misogyny muh equal rights" are the reason why this horrible movement exists in the first place. I would have never let such a stupid movement ever gain ground, unlike manginas.
Though why are you posting here? Doesn't your wife have a honey-do list for you to complete while she goes and bangs the alpha pool boy?
Seriously, I do believe women should be equal to men in the eyes of the law. Hilariously, this would make men actually have a fair chance at keeping some custody of their children in addition to numerous other benefits for men and many drawbacks for women.
I am not agreeing/disagreeing with anything you said, but an "alpha pool boy?"
Really?
You have been reading wayyyyy too much PUA shit.
Get a life, faggot...