On a scale of 3-8, with 6 being the highest and 7 being the lowest I would give Christianity and Buddhism a 4, Islam/Hinduism would get an 8 and teh Jews would get a 5 but that's just me.
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The New Testament says that women are to wear veils and not speak in the church, and they are to obey their husbands - but that doesn't mean that is "what a Christian considers" to be how they should act.
Koran parts about violence doesn't mean that all Muslims "consider" that to be their way of life. It's my understanding that the "pro-violence" take on Islam says that it is to be done through a court system, and not by taking the law into one's own hands. I'm not aware of any type of private or public court charging the US ambassador with a crime, yet alone one where the punishment would be death.
I clarified because anti-Christians cherry pick the Old Testament all of the time without understanding the New Testament has Christ telling the Jews they completely misunderstood the Old Testament and that it was about Love and Inclusion. The Jews were supposed to spread the Word and Love of God, not keep themselves separate and act Holier Than Thou.
Yes there were specific wars/attacks/etc condoned on specific occasions, but never general occasions.
Christ completely altered the way of application and understanding of the Old Testament. For example when they brought him the Aldutress, he said he who is without sin cast the first stone - completely going against the way they were mistakenly applying the old testament.
That is why they wanted him killed.
You're comparing Christianity with Buddhism and Comparing Hinduism with Islam. That's ridiculous..
Judaism, Christianity and Islam are of same type. Fundamentally same ideology and just different flavors. However Islamists are more book (Qoran) oriented than the other two.
Abrahamic religions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hinduism and Buddhism (and Jainism) are almost of same type. The only difference is Buddhism does not talk about god (it doesn't deny god either). But, their all other believes are same - Karma, reincarnation, no-killing and everything else. Indian religions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In history, Christians and Islamists invaded other countries to spread religion but, Hindus and Buddhists never invaded another country for spreading the religion (Because those religions never taught chauvinism, never said "our religion is the best" and other ways are unacceptable). Hindus believe that other religions are also pathways to salvation, but different paths. On the other hand the Abrahamic religions (Islam, Christianity and Judaism teach that their respective religion is the legit one and the other religions are pathways to hell.
Btw, I read Bible, Qoran , Tripitaka and Hindu scriptures. (Did not read Jews' book yet though)
No. Seriously I don't feel offended by this picture. It's just a cartoon that's it. For record yes I believe that Ganesha, Jesus, Buddha, etc all are divine. If they are really divine how a cartoon can insult them? It's just a cartoon and god is god.
Then you need to brush up your knowledge on history of Christianity, or better yet, stop trying to be a smart ass on internet forums.
Good for you. You are not being a child about your emotions, unlike a lot of people. This is not sarcastic.
I still have issues about lack of proof though
I still have issues about lack of proof though
If you need proof, then you don't have faith.
If you have faith, you don't need proof.
What is it about this concept that "evangelizing atheists" have such a hard time understanding?
If your faith is requires the existence of proof to exist, it is not faith.
If your proof is predicated on the acceptance of faith, it is not proof.
Funny, my friends wife is a nurse in an orphanage in India. It's a Christian orphanage and the priest that runs the place has been put in jail many times on fake charges and I consider that a pretty violent action. I use to think the Hindu religion was pretty docile until they fire bombed the orphanage a couple times. I'm not saying it's all Hindus, but there sure is a lot of hate towards that orphanage and others like it for some reason.
The only thing the orphanages are trying to do is help homeless / parentless children and personally I think that is a nobel goal, because god knows India has a shit load of them. It's exactly how charity / welfare should be done. Everyone gives money to them out of the goodness of their hearts. Not because some government forces them to. I'm not really sure if they convert the children or not, but if they do maybe that's why they're lashing out. I have no idea.
Trying to compare one religion to the next based on violence / expansionism they've done is hard to do, because every group has had nutters in it including Buddhism and Hindus. There was actually a time in history where Buddhists thought they could take over the world and convert everyone. The Buddhist Japanese Army kidnapped over 300,000 Koreans to serve in their army and had raped basically all the women in some Korean towns / cities. What the Japanese have done to Koreans at different stages in history still effects them today, because of how bad it was. I had a close Korean friend who's getting up there in the years and when I told him I was studying Japanese he gave me an ear full. I can also say with some certainty that Buddhists have focused on expansion as some point in time. If they hadn't it wouldn't have grown as far as it did. If I have to I could look it up and give some more specific references.
After having said all of that. You eventually have to decided you can only go back so far and basically forgive (not forget) parts of history. If after a couple hundred years a religion hasn't actively promoted violence against another group of people then let the sins of the past be washed away. Christianity, Buddhism, Hindu, and Judaism haven't actively promoted violence in many many years. Some longer in others, but all of pretty much denounced it at the higher levels. The only major religion that is still actively promoting violence is Islam. In todays world if a leader of any major religion started spewing the hatred that the leaders of Islam spew they would be denounced and shunned. With Islam though the followers seem to encourage it instead of trying to find peaceful ways to deal with their issues. I understand not all Muslims support violence. The problem is they don't stand up and say "No, I don't support you or your message.". Instead they stay quite and continue to let it happen.
Do you follow any sports teams?
If you've ever held out for a late game 3-pointer, a touchdown with seconds remaining, or a suicide squeeze in the bottom of the 9th despite the high probability that none of those things would happen, you probably get faith more than you think.
Obviously, I'm grossly oversimplifying things here, but you can make an argument that individuals of faith live in a world where "anything is possible", and this certainly includes come from behind wins.
crackp0t - Yes. I agree Idiots are in all religions (and Islam has more, much more.) I just pointed out that Hindus and Buddhists never tried to convert others to their religion by force, to point out a similarity of their religious model. I did not say it to mean that Christians were more violent. In today's world Hindus, Buddhists and Christians are almost same in terms of religious violence.
Mormons are rough, I'm not surprised you left them out, because lots of people are scared of them. It really seems like their culture glorifies violence.
Now you're going beyond cherry picking and just making shit up to desperately hold on to an illusion. You ever ask yourself why?
I still have issues about lack of proof though
Atheist want proofs for the existence of God. Can they give proof for the non-existence of God? No one has succeeded in showing proofs that God does not exist [Copied from here]
I believe Jesus existed. You believe Jesus did not exist. Neither of these believes have proof. So, basically you're also believing in something that does not have proof.
I don't really need a proof that god doesn't exist.
I just don't trouble myself with stupid dilemas like that. Also, defying yourself as an atheist, implies that you are considering the fact that god exists, which is pitiful, IMO.
Do you have a proof that the tooth fairy doesn't exist? Have faith, son! She's gonna give you monies for your teeth(that's why dentists are rich). Or perhaps, she is a he. Perhaps it's god himself? Or was it Santa? I get confused sometimes why a fat fuck in red, riding a 6-horse open slay(or was it a one-horse open slay, hey?) climbs down our chimney to give us presents in order to celebrate the birth of Christ, who is not actually a god, but son of the jewish god.