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Christians kill more people because of their religion than Muslims do. Muslims kill more people because of their religion than Jews do. Jews kill more people than Buddhists do. Buddhists kill more people than Christians do.

Wait. I lost my train of though.
 


Now you're going beyond cherry picking and just making shit up to desperately hold on to an illusion. You ever ask yourself why?

I was repeating commonly taught Christian doctrine. It's not Cherry Picking. One of the reasons they wanted to kill Jesus was his speaking out against their doctrine.
 
I'm not really sure if they convert the children or not, but if they do maybe that's why they're lashing out. I have no idea.

I think they probably are. Most of the christian orphanages or such organizations which I know in India convert people and that's why people are lashing out. They get funding from the western countries and use a significant portion of that money for converting people. I personally know a few who converted to Christianity for money (They were very poor and were doing janitorial jobs for few rupees) People in the US give some $$ for such charity works and in the third world this money is often used for conveying (People get the benefit only if they convert).
However, attacking such Churches or orphanages are not acceptable. I personally don't give a fuck about these religious conversions because it's their life and their choice.
 
Atheist want proofs for the existence of God. Can they give proof for the non-existence of God? No one has succeeded in showing proofs that God does not exist [Copied from here]

I believe Jesus existed. You believe Jesus did not exist. Neither of these believes have proof. So, basically you're also believing in something that does not have proof.

No, the emphasis is on the person to prove that god does exist as it is with everything else such as fairies, santa and of course unicorns. It's not possible to prove that these things don't exist, we just assume they don't as there is no proof that they do, common sense really.
 
All religions are retarded.

Christian, Jewish and Hindu extremists might not be killing and spreading terror as publicing or on as large a scale as the Muslim extremists but they still believe in a guy who walked on fucking water, a guy who split a fucking sea and a blue fucking elephant.

Other religions taking the moral high ground and laughing at another religion is the equivalent of a group of retarded kids laughing at a violent retarded kid from their ivy fucking retarded towers.

I abhore religion and what is currently happening in the middle east is terrorists exploiting an "offensive" video for their own gains. People are being mislead and deceived to carry out their evil agenda.

Ha fucking ha.
 
I believe Jesus existed. You believe Jesus did not exist. Neither of these believes have proof. So, basically you're also believing in something that does not have proof.

Well, historically Jesus is generally accepted to have existed by most scholars. Who or what he was, well, that's probably what you differ in opinion on.
 
bible tossers are all worshipping the sun. not even some man figure. they're pagan dummies who don't know it.

Even the whole 3 days dead and then rises bullshit is just the sun not moving for 3 days around the winter solstice. And on the 25th it moves one degree up, or "rises". *slow clap for the jebus crowd*

Jebus was probably just a really smart person in his own time. A child-scholar can probably figure out how to make people in awe of him back then, and whatever docs they dug up about him claim he was one.

The only thing that makes me mad about bible tossers is they refuse to accept they're being controlled by people, not some guy with a beard who watches everything you do. But owell - as long as they use internet, same IQ level as rebill people.

PS - the world isnt 12,000 years old. when I see someone get one thing wrong, I stop listening to their advice because it's probably wrong. So its hard to listen to people who think the world is 12,000 years old, and who think "god put dinosaur bones here to test our faith"..
 
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I just don't trouble myself with stupid dilemas like that. Also, defying yourself as an atheist, implies that you are considering the fact that god exists, which is pitiful, IMO.

I disagree. To me it's an issue you have to take sides on. There are so many retards that believe in religion that it's inescapable. Even if you don't want it, there's a pretty good chance that every day it gets shoved in your face.

Take sides, tell the religious people to fuck off and you'll be fine.
 
I clarified because anti-Christians cherry pick the Old Testament all of the time without understanding the New Testament has Christ telling the Jews they completely misunderstood the Old Testament and that it was about Love and Inclusion. The Jews were supposed to spread the Word and Love of God, not keep themselves separate and act Holier Than Thou.

Yes there were specific wars/attacks/etc condoned on specific occasions, but never general occasions.

Christ completely altered the way of application and understanding of the Old Testament. For example when they brought him the Aldutress, he said he who is without sin cast the first stone - completely going against the way they were mistakenly applying the old testament.

That is why they wanted him killed.

Biggest faggot ever. Glad your faith is strong, but your mind is weak son.
 
Atheist want proofs for the existence of God. Can they give proof for the non-existence of God? No one has succeeded in showing proofs that God does not exist [Copied from here]

I believe Jesus existed. You believe Jesus did not exist. Neither of these believes have proof. So, basically you're also believing in something that does not have proof.

Evidence of absence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The default without evidence is to assume that something does not exist.

Russell's teapot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Show me some evidence that someone called Jesus, who wasn't a mortal existed plz. Without, I will continue to assume that that person didn't exist. Note that I said evidence of someone who was not a mortal. Anecdotes don't count :)
 
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Show me some evidence that someone called Jesus, who wasn't a mortal existed plz. Without, I will continue to assume that that person didn't exist. Note that I said evidence of someone who was not a mortal. Anecdotes don't count :)

You are confusing "evidence" with "proof." Any evidence, no matter how small, is still evidence. A piece of paper saying that Lee Harvey Oswald was seen in Dallas counts as evidence that he killed JFK.

As for "proof", there are various ways to define that. What counts as proof to one person might not count as proof in a court of law, and what is enough for legal proof is not enough for proof in science.
 
You are confusing "evidence" with "proof." Any evidence, no matter how small, is still evidence. A piece of paper saying that Lee Harvey Oswald was seen in Dallas counts as evidence that he killed JFK.

As for "proof", there are various ways to define that. What counts as proof to one person might not count as proof in a court of law, and what is enough for legal proof is not enough for proof in science.

This is a garbage straw man argument. How does one define - define? Eat shit. You know where he's going.
 
This is a garbage straw man argument.

I'm not arguing anything, I'm pointing out that bananas are not apples, and that apples come in different varieties.

Internet master debaters who ask for "proof" or "evidence" often confuse the two words, which is a bit ironic as it suppose to be the smarter people who ask for such things, but I guess that's... debatable. YEEAAAHH
 
Biggest faggot ever. Glad your faith is strong, but your mind is weak son.

Good solid argument.

I clarified the Christian doctrine in that post. I guess seeing a clarification incited you to frustration that I could be so weak minded.

It seems to me that most here do not even understand Christian doctrine and yet they make fun of it all of the time. I simply took the time to correct the misunderstanding. Do with the information what you please, but at least have the correct information.
 
Good solid argument.

I clarified the Christian doctrine in that post. I guess seeing a clarification incited you to frustration that I could be so weak minded.

It seems to me that most here do not even understand Christian doctrine and yet they make fun of it all of the time. I simply took the time to correct the misunderstanding. Do with the information what you please, but at least have the correct information.

In order for christianity to have a doctrine it has to be based on reality, which of course it's not. So who gives a fuck what its doctrine is?

How do you argue with people that believe in fairy tales? That's the hard part. It's like arguing with a brick wall.
 
In order for christianity to have a doctrine it has to be based on reality, which of course it's not. So who gives a fuck what its doctrine is?

How do you argue with people that believe in fairy tales? That's the hard part. It's like arguing with a brick wall.

With Christians you argue the basis for their faith not doctrine. When arguing doctrine, you will lose, its fully vetted and logically consistent. Trust me, it is. With non Christian religions you can point out obvious flaws in doctrine, but not Conservative mainstream Christianity.

You cannot even argue innerrancy because the Christian will show you the Dead Sea scrolls, and many archealogical finds that pre-date the councils that supposedly picked and chose what to leave in the Bible an all Doctrine. Maybe there is a little thing here or there that has yet to be substantiated, but core issues have all been found and supported.

Try approaching it from their belief in fulfilled prophecy within the Bible. The Bible itself says if something is not fulfilled or wrong then the prophet is incorrect. Christianity hinges on the fact that there are multitudes of Prophecies that were written about and then fulfilled later. Find a flaw in one of those and the whole thing falls apart.'

You can try to find a flaw in the science of the Bible, like many have tried to do here. For example saying the earth was a circle vs. a sphere. But those arguments fall flat (pardon the pun). Even though there are no real scientific errors in the Bible, in the end the Bible is not a science book and therefore does not in any way purport to put forth anything scientific - but it is claimed to be a prophetic one.

That's why you can easily tear down the JW's that follow the Watchtower and other supposed Christian teachers that have claimed Armegeddon or the rapture will happen on one date or another. They are false teachers and can be set aside.

You can also attack the historicity of the information, but good luck on that. Archeaology has yet to find something that contradicts the Bible. They have some things not yet found, but nothing that is a direct and provable contradiction. For example, if you found that any of the disciples recanted what they said about Christ, especially about seeing him after his death, then you would have something. But all of them went to a violent death sticking to their claims. The Christian will say that who gets tortured and killed for something they know is a lie? Many will do it for what they think is true, but these guys went to their deaths to support their first hand accounts. That's rare, possibly it has never happened. It was not like the Govt's at the time supported Christianity and would kill their families - the Govt's were trying to get them to recant.

Historicity and prophecy. Find an error in there and you take out the Christian.
 
Archeaology has yet to find something that contradicts the Bible.

Well we do know for a fact that two of every species was not placed onto an ark. We also know for a fact that there has never been a flood that would cover the earth in anywhere near enough water to make Mt. Ararat a landing place for the ark. There are literally countless examples of errors but I don't think I need to dig out my Bible do I?
 
I'm an atheist myself but even I would say that the story of Noah is a parable.