Nutritional supplements for working out

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amorph

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Hey,

I know some of the guys here hit the gym pretty often (nickycakes?) so maybe someone is able to give me some good advice. My problem is this - I have been going to the gym fairly often for a while now, and seeing some good progress, but my problem is that I'm actually trying to gain mass because I'm pretty skinny and a hard gainer. I have decided to add some nutritional supplements, like whey protein into my daily diet. Unfortunately it seems that whole industry is confusing as fuck with their buttloads of similar-sounding products and the internet doesn't exactly help either since it's ridden with shitty affiliate sites that recommend you to buy 10 products at once so they can get their cut.

My question is just, what would you recommend for gaining some mass in a reasonable amount of time? I don't want to be absolutely bulked up to the extreme so not sure if shit like creatine is still needed then. I am already eating fairly well but my metabolism works in a way where I just don't seem to put on more weight.

Should I just get some basic whey protein, and maybe one of these weight gainer products like N-Large? Is that enough to add some decent mass ? Any other suggestions?

Thanks.
 


Addendum: I realize there is another fitness thread around, but that seems to be about folks losing weight. I want to/need to do the opposite.
 
hi amorph.

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They are the building blocks of muscles. Those two things along will provide your body with exactly what it needs to start putting on some real bulk without screwing up your body.

The AKG...it will not only help with your muscle mass, but it will also help grow your endurance, buffer against lactic build up, and provide your body with what it needs to rejuvenate & repair your muscle tissues quicker.

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In order to give any good advice on what you might want to start supplementing with you should post your current stats (ht, wt, approx bf%), current workout and what your daily diet currently looks like (calories, pro,fat,carbs).
 
woops...i beta alanine is good, but i meant to post the link to BCAAs, both are really good sups either way...but BCAAs will affect your growth faster & more
 
With regards to gaining muscle I would recommend you buy a good book about natural bodybuilding for natural bodybuilders.

The book I recommend is called Beyond Brawn written by Stuart McRobert. (under $20 from Amazon).

This book is excellent and is written for "hard gainers". You will learn from this book the correct way to train, select the right exercises and explain the right food to eat.

Save your money, you do not need supplements to gain muscle mass.

Stuart is a great writer, you will learn a lot from his book. I bought an addition about 10 years ago and it helped me greatly.

Hope this helps you, good luck with your training.
 
Recently started working out again. Eating around 3,000 cals a day, fine oats, brown rice, loads of chicken, BCAA's, fish oil, whey shakes, the full works. Added around 8lbs in 4 weeks so far.

It's all about getting your diet right if you're tryna get bigger. Don't be afraid to put on a little bit of fat as you get bigger too. It's a necessity.
 
Oatmeals.

And nigga, you still using the gym?

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New product category that combines energy+high protein+vitamins.

Provita Protein

It was started by a friend of mine, pm me if you want toell as affiliate. They are setting up their affiliate program now. It will have a good payout.
 
Hey, I'm a supplement hound.

To answer your question, I recommend FOOD. Not food "products", but real fucking food. ie. colorful vegetables, meats, fish, poultry, eggs, nuts, fruits, seeds, and maybe some starchy tubors since you're trying to gain.

I'd also go somewhere like musculardevelopment.com and ask there. Better information.

Second, supplements won't do you shit until you have your diet in check. Are you using fitday.com to track your calories and protein? You should use it to track EVERYTHING you put in your mouth. You will come to some realizations quite quickly that you're not eating as well as you think.

What is your macronutrient breakdown (carbs/protein/fats)?

Post a day of your sample diet and I'll help critique. THEN I'll give you all the supplement advice in the world.
 
svakanda said:
but BCAAs will affect your growth faster & more
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You sure about this? I was told very different from people on BB. I thought if anything, they were for cutting rather than bulking (the OP).

Most protein sups have a 2/1/1 mix of the key aminoacids anyways.
 
Berto said:
Hey, I'm a supplement hound.

To answer your question, I recommend FOOD. Not food "products", but real fucking food. ie. colorful vegetables, meats, fish, poultry, eggs, nuts, fruits, seeds, and maybe some starchy tubors since you're trying to gain.

I'd also go somewhere like musculardevelopment.com and ask there. Better information.

Second, supplements won't do you shit until you have your diet in check. Are you using fitday.com to track your calories and protein? You should use it to track EVERYTHING you put in your mouth. You will come to some realizations quite quickly that you're not eating as well as you think.

What is your macronutrient breakdown (carbs/protein/fats)?

Post a day of your sample diet and I'll help critique. THEN I'll give you all the supplement advice in the world.
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Gotta agree with everything stated above, EAT!!! then maybe do a protein shake or 4. I'm in a weight gaining phase and eating everything I can w/in reason, plus 3-4 52 gram protein shakes a day. The shakes themselves I drink slowly so I get more absorption.

Good luck
 
Not all whey protein is the same - there's some real shit cheap stuff out there that is practically useless so definitely shop around. I am a massive fan of AST-VP2 but it's expensive as shit.

I also take daily fish oil, l-carnatine, whey protein shakes with dextrose + l-glutamine post-workout to spike insulin, multi-vitamin and CLA.

We love it.

Like other people said - eat good food. Tons of proteins and some healthy fats - limit your carbs after mid-day. Try and eat 6-7 times a day and space that shit out. In fact, here is my exact current program that's doing me nicely....




8.00 am – 1 x VP2 Protein Shake, 1 x ECA Stack, 1 x L-Carnatine

MORNING WORKOUT 8.15am – 9.00am 5 x a week (low rep, heavy weights MAX-OT style focusing on different body part each day.

9.00 am – 1 x VP2 Protein Shake w/teaspoon glutamine and teaspoon of dextrose. Multivitamin

10am Chicken Breast + Boiled Potato

11am Chicken Breast + Boiled Potato

1pm – Chicken Breast / Salad with Apple Cider Vinegar (Fish Oil + 2 CLA Tablets)

3pm – Tuna Salad with Apple Cider Vinegar Dressing

5pm – Trail Mixed Nuts and Seeds w/fruit (healthy fats and protein)

EVENING CARIO 6pm (20 minutes high intensity MAX-OT Cardio)

6.30pm 1 x WPI Protein Shake w/teaspoon glutamine + w/teaspoon dextrose, multivitamin

8pm – Meat/Fish and Vegetables + Fruit

10pm – Casein Protein Shake.
 
ElectronicPunks said:
Not all whey protein is the same - there's some real shit cheap stuff out there that is practically useless so definitely shop around. I am a massive fan of AST-VP2 but it's expensive as shit.

I also take daily fish oil, l-carnatine, whey protein shakes with dextrose + l-glutamine post-workout to spike insulin, multi-vitamin and CLA.

We love it.

Like other people said - eat good food. Tons of proteins and some healthy fats - limit your carbs after mid-day. Try and eat 6-7 times a day and space that shit out. In fact, here is my exact current program that's doing me nicely....




8.00 am – 1 x VP2 Protein Shake, 1 x ECA Stack, 1 x L-Carnatine

MORNING WORKOUT 8.15am – 9.00am 5 x a week (low rep, heavy weights MAX-OT style focusing on different body part each day.

9.00 am – 1 x VP2 Protein Shake w/teaspoon glutamine and teaspoon of dextrose. Multivitamin

10am Chicken Breast + Boiled Potato

11am Chicken Breast + Boiled Potato

1pm – Chicken Breast / Salad with Apple Cider Vinegar (Fish Oil + 2 CLA Tablets)

3pm – Tuna Salad with Apple Cider Vinegar Dressing

5pm – Trail Mixed Nuts and Seeds w/fruit (healthy fats and protein)

EVENING CARIO 6pm (20 minutes high intensity MAX-OT Cardio)

6.30pm 1 x WPI Protein Shake w/teaspoon glutamine + w/teaspoon dextrose, multivitamin

8pm – Meat/Fish and Vegetables + Fruit

10pm – Casein Protein Shake.
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Recentley bought this because it's pretty cheap, how can I know if it's good or not?

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