^ underwear bomber, plenty of black muslims in africa, uh...black panthers, i suppose. but, yes, blacks tend toward the random senseless chaos and destruction rather than planned, philosophically/ideologically motivated attacks
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You've gone from talking about all violent crime, to having to focus in on something that probably has nothing to do with over 99 percent of the nation. And actually there have been truces among the gangs and gang violence has dropped way off since the early 90s.
Here's a fact for you :
The California Department of Justice estimates that there are 25,000 Asian street gang members in California.
I deal with facts, not "worldviews."
What is this number that you speak of and how was it arrived at? Where is this groundbreaking research that proves that people of a certain race gathering in an area is enough on its own for causation? Surely someone must have won the Nobel prize or something for such an amazing study.
You must have not looked at the link I provided earlier, as the numbers say that whites are also committing double the amount of burglaries, larcenies and motor vehicle theft, among other things.
You must also not be very familiar with the high crime areas in eastern Europe that are predominately white.
No shit. Black leaders readily point this out. It is learned in the first week of various 101 college courses. It's not a secret.
New York City is the business capital of the world and is over 50% black and hispanic. Dozens of cities have higher violent crime and homicide rates than NYC. Among them are places like Portland, Oregon and Wichita, Kansas, which are 80 and 70 percent white.
New York City with over 4 million blacks and hispanics is not a minor exception. According to your logic, the whole place should be a massive war zone. The reality is that you are more likely to be raped in rural Alaska. Just because an angry talk radio guy didn't tell you that, does not mean it isn't a fact.
No, you've got it backwards. If you serve up an ad selling Magical Fart Dust to 4 million NYC residents, you will end up with a number of people that will buy it, and yes, this number may be at four times higher of a rate than Canadians buy it, but it also might be the same rate that easter Europeans would purchase it.
Part of their "way of life" was owning slaves. "Black influence"? Blacks still had little rights or power and the KKK did not want them around at all.
If you really are a young Asian female, you definitely are a unique one, lol.
There were lynchings and whatever else going on in the past. Don't you think that would have made some blacks try to get revenge, more so than being allowed to stand next to whites at a water fountain?
Schools were integrated in the 1950s and violent crime overall was going down in the early 1960s, but then did go up in the late 60s and into 1980.
Most charts like the one below start in the 70s, possibly because the accuracy might be more questionable the further you go back. Society is more integrated now than in 1973, but notice the crime drop.
you think asians like blacks? or any other group, really? i don't know where you got that. if you actually go to asia, this whole diversity/multiculturalism thing by and large is genuinely foreign. it's a common belief that blacks aren't even human. many young american asians have become essentially white liberals ideologically, though, yes
i guess i'd say we tend to respect whites for their sucess and accomplishments but that's about it.
What I'm saying is that it wouldn't be hard to find young Asian American females talking about Jersey Shore or even about how much they love Mitt Romney, but to find one trying to spin the formation of the KKK into something noble - that would have to be rare.
More xenophobia is common in Asia than anything. "No Foreigners" is still seen a lot in Japan even.
No-one is born with anything but the most basic of survival instincts. You are not born with morals, beliefs, and indeed, predjudices - they are inculturated from a young age by the people surrounding you according to their own bias and beliefs. To say otherwise is to negate any personal responsibility regarding your own beliefs and where they have stemmed from and shows a lack of reflection in regards to yourself and what makes you, you.
Yeah, but it's not like the KKK was formed by Asians to promote those views or that the KKK has ever been big fans of Asians.
i mentioned gangs briefly as one specific aspect of the situation. i'm not sure why you seem so hung up on things improving. the thrust of all my writing has been on the differences between racial groups not on short term changes in incidences of crime. gangs are a definite concern for anyone who went to school or has children in school anywhere near most urban areas.
certainly. however, they still don't commit enough crimes to have any hope of moving asians out of lowest crime rate of any race (except for gambling, i think lol.)
that shows a stunning lack of self-awareness
of course not, do you think anyone could publish honest research on race in modern academia and still have a career??? for example, look at what happened to James Watson (one of the discoverers of dna) when he basically just mentioned exceedingly well verified research on intelligence differences?
there are more than double the number of whites in the country compared to black. in order for whites NOT to be committing double the amount of things they would have to have to have an incredibly lower crime rate per person
sure, i never said whites were perfect or even all that good lol. the difference is, those eastern europeans are able to keep a somewhat modern society going, at least occasionally, without constant outside money and assistance. the same can't be said of nearly any majority black country or region.
really? you sure seem to be skirting around it.
nyc functions because of all that money moving around each day. it provides the means and incentive to do whatever's necessary to keep it all going -- infrastructure, extensive law enforcement, sanitation, etc. so, yes, new york has the wealth and resources to keep it from becoming a "warzone." still, the crime stats paint a pretty clear picture (click on race/ethnicity of perpetrator.)
no, that isn't what i was saying. you dismissed my original, admittedly dramatic, characterization of katrina as meaningless because no way was every single person raping and shooting. the implication being that, unless they ALL were, than what's the point in even mentioning it, let alone drawing a conclusion regarding the character of that group. this appears plainly disingenuous.
if, instead, all the black people had acted more like the japanese did after the recent tsunami (helping and protecting one another) you wouldn't suggest that this says someting positive about blacks? i sincerely doubt it.
want to perhaps. getting away with it without sever retribution is another thing.
yes, prior to the 1970s, white people (including working and middleclass ones) actually lived in large numbers in all of america's cities. some are staring to come back (gentrification) but pretty much only the wealthy who can afford to be insulated from the rest of the city in large part. it's called white flight. as soon as they get old enough to start having kids and getting married, white people move en masse from the diverse cities to the much less divese (if they can afford it) suburbs. this is a huge part any reduced crime rate. whites have been aggresively self-segregating every since the civil rights days. as soon as minorities start to move in (which they inevitably do) those whites who can afford it move again
i have no affection for the kkk. as someone looking in on it without any particular attachment, i just find it funny how people seem to think, since we've all decided that that particular culture (the american south) is bad,
they should have just happily accepted their defeat and destruction. sure, they're darth vader and hitler to us now but from their perspective they were just like any other group that has a natural interest in its own survival
The more I read HB's political posts, the more I think 'he might not be wrong here.'
Get dat bitch microphone and a demo tape.
Oh, I disagree with the Obama comment btw. He's a fucking douchebag.
No, not at all, wouldn't know you from a bar of soap and I didn't say at any stage that I did. What I did say, in response to something you wrote, was that your own beliefs (anyone's for that matter) have been developed from pre-existing bias, beliefs, and prejudices which you described as "a natural survival function of human psychology.", which is not natural, but inculturated - you don't fear, hate, loathe, what you haven't been taught to. Self awareness only comes when you can step outside of your own belief structure and examine their origins and what cultural forces helped to shape them.
Yeah, facts are so inconvenient.
They can if they have numbers to back it up, and if that's not true they can at least publish it on the internet.
Watson cited studies about blacks scoring lower on tests. According to you, these studies should not have even been able to be published in the first place. Anyways, Watson mentioning those tests was not the problem. The problem was that his comments were interpreted as him saying that they were born with lower intelligence, which has not been proven.
Oh, so now you are saying that factors other than skin color can affect crime rates? Before you said that things like poverty have nothing to do with it, now you are talking about infrastructure and sanitation. LOL :rainfro:
Again, that's not top secret information, anymore than it is that males have higher crime rates. Popular rap songs and movies have mentioned it. Whole college courses are devoted to it. If you have a point besides "durp hurp, blackie crime rate high" than feel free to state it.
Really? That sounds like more groundbreaking research that I've never heard of.
What the facts do tell us is that the races are living and working together now more than ever and despite this crime has not gone up, but instead gone way down.
KKK does not equal American south culture. Only a small minority of those in the defeated confederate states joined the KKK.
Most freed slaves weren't driven off by the KKK, but instead stayed where they were and worked as sharecroppers.
What point are you trying to make Moxie? Overall I see you attacking individual pieces of PG's argument but in accord with PG's main thesis that blacks commit more crimes per capita, which is clearly the case.
Go back to my first post in here. Her main thesis was that removing blacks and hispanics would give us a fantasy world with virtually no crime. That's a ridiculous exaggeration as most crime is committed by whites.
That's all my point was. Since then I've mostly been responding to her(his?) fallacies of distraction and/or trolling.