Obama and Ghey Marriage
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I'm having trouble wrapping my head around this one... What do they feel they can get the state to do for them exactly? ALLOW something?
Freedom > Something allowed.
Freedom = Everything allowed.
Well look at NC right now. Look at the fact that gays at the most will always be 10% of the population. If the federal govt. stays out then the states will decide what to recognize or not. If one state allows it others may not, then it wont count in those states, or in worst case states could pass laws against going to other states to get married. It's easy for us to say govt. doing less equals freedom, but to some people that sounds more like a turtle without a shell to protect itself. Now if there were no benefits attached to getting married that's a different story I suppose. But to gays it probably seems like democracy in form of two wolves and a sheep deciding whats for dinner.
country is turning into soviet union and we are arguing over if faggots can marry or not...makes perfect sense to me
I admire your faith that ron paul will get the nod. But my best friend is gay, and after countless conversations about shit like this with her I would say that most gays wont give a fuck if ron paul says he wants the govt. to stay out of marriage because gays don't want that, they very much want the govt. to stay involved in marriage because they fear the tyranny of the majority and ultimately want federally same sex marriage laws in place. I can't say I don't understand as american history is a litany of minorities having to fight, sometimes brutally for every scrap of freedom they get. At the end of the day it's hard to care what any politician says, save for maybe a few I can count on one hand, ron paul included of course.
which one of them is obama??
Oh, so you're saying that Gays are like Welfare queens; Leeches to society, forcing the rest of us to live in slavery so that they can use the large-gunned federal government to their advantage, and they don't want to give that up because it's too inconvenient for them to all move to the same state.
I mean shit... 10% of 50 States is like TWO ENTIRE STATES that they can have to themselves and expel every bible-thumper and homophobe from their borders lawfully.
But NOOOoooo, They'd rather save the cost of a freaking UHaul and keep the entire country locked in slavery on this issue.
If you're right, you just made me and all the libertarians on this board lose a TON of respect for gays everywhere.
It's not just gays. This has always been the case.
It is assumed by many that the government's primary function is to grant rights to groups of people. You are assuming most people have a sense of personal responsibility, and that is a mistake.
I think Eldarion is right on the money here. When the State is believed to be a provider a freedom, people (minority groups in particular, because they get fucked over more by democracy than anyone) very much want the government to get involved. If only they knew...
Oh thank jeebus someone caught me on that one... I was beginning to think you guys didn't care anymore. :drinkup:
Did any American president denounce anti-miscegenation laws prior to the 1967 US Supreme Court ruling overturning the remaining ones (Loving v. Virginia)?